Noreen Renier: Protection against lawsuits

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I have been asked by several national skeptical group members to briefly clarify the legal hurdles that Noreen Renier would encounter in attempting to file a complaint against myself or other groups or individuals.

While I’m not an attorney I would suggest her largest hurdle would be a judgment by U.S. Judge William E. Anderson against Noreen Renier on March 21, 2011 noting “The overwhelming problem with Renier’s case is that this court did not find her … to be a credible witness. There are reasons for this conclusion, beyond her demeanor. First, she misled the court when she indicated that she intended to abide by [a directive] order. … Renier stood not five feet away [from this bench] and agreed to abide. … Her [later] testimony … evidences that she did not intend at any time to abide by the memorialization of the court’s words."

Not credible and having misled a federal court is a huge stumbling block in attempting any future litigation by psychic actress Noreen Renier. And that court ruling was further compounded after Ms. Renier’s multiple attempts to overturn it were rejected by both a higher U.S. District Court and on April 18, 2012 by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit (a court immediately under the U.S. Supreme Court).

In my own case during a bidding process held during her latest bankruptcy process --- I was her largest unpaid creditor --- and held in open court under the authority of the court and direction of Judge William Anderson, Ms. Renier agreed to transfer to me one of her assigned assets providing me “protection against further litigation” as the high bidder. The winning bid I paid was made directly to the Court Trustee to be added to the funds collected for her unpaid creditors. As I was her highest unpaid creditor I received the majority of what I paid in back and ultimately spent only about $150 for this certainly unique asset listed and created by Noreen Renier herself.

That was of course offset by further payments covering thousands of dollars collected from her unpaid book royalties and the vast majority when she effectively bid to re-purchase her copyrights back as the highest bidder for $9000.

An extensive review of her hundreds of pages of truly bizarre legal appeal filings and attachments also provides a vast array of obstacles for any future attempts at litigation against anyone.

Nor should one overlook her prior testimony of working with ghosts that were overflowing toilets in order to end legal action. And many, many, more.

I have no doubt of the 20 or so attorneys Ms. Renier used in actions against me that the vast majority regret taking her case. One certainly must still wince. Her Seattle attorney Shelley Hall was Ms. Renier’s second highest unpaid creditor and filed debts owed from Ms. Renier for over $26,000. She received only about $2500 ultimately --- or about ten cents on the dollar. But perhaps as a consolation her toilets no longer overflow.
 
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ANY publicity to a psychic is good publicity. She will continue to file frivolous lawsuits if it gives her free media attention. Skeptics crushing her claims only fuel the fire of the ignorant, desperate, and uneducated to throw their money at her...No win scenario.
 
ANY publicity to a psychic is good publicity. She will continue to file frivolous lawsuits if it gives her free media attention. Skeptics crushing her claims only fuel the fire of the ignorant, desperate, and uneducated to throw their money at her...No win scenario.

A sad analysis Mr/Ms Pie. But I think the evidence is that "Sherlock" is actually winning in the case of this fraud.

I have publicly asked Randi twice in the last couple of years whether he thinks "the good guys are winning". On both occasions he has said yes. It is a long slow climb for the Human Race from the black pit of nonsense into the sunlit plains of Reality but we'll take one victory at a time.
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A sad analysis Mr/Ms Pie. But I think the evidence is that "Sherlock" is actually winning in the case of this fraud.

I have publicly asked Randi twice in the last couple of years whether he thinks "the good guys are winning". On both occasions he has said yes. It is a long slow climb for the Human Race from the black pit of nonsense into the sunlit plains of Reality but we'll take one victory at a time.
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It's "Mr." but you can call me Possum.!
 
A sad analysis Mr/Ms Pie. But I think the evidence is that "Sherlock" is actually winning in the case of this fraud.

I have publicly asked Randi twice in the last couple of years whether he thinks "the good guys are winning". On both occasions he has said yes. It is a long slow climb for the Human Race from the black pit of nonsense into the sunlit plains of Reality but we'll take one victory at a time.
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You know, it's not only peoples belief in the paranormal. It also extends to political and social beliefs. When trying to hold an in depth intelligent discussion with most people, they are usually reduced to spewing uninformed garbage and soundbites from their favorite talk show host. It actually makes me fear for the future of mankind if my test samples are any indication.

People are getting dumber and lazier imo...maybe it's only here in the USA but that's where I live, so it's a concern.
 
You know, it's not only peoples belief in the paranormal. It also extends to political and social beliefs. When trying to hold an in depth intelligent discussion with most people, they are usually reduced to spewing uninformed garbage and soundbites from their favorite talk show host. It actually makes me fear for the future of mankind if my test samples are any indication.

People are getting dumber and lazier imo...maybe it's only here in the USA but that's where I live, so it's a concern.

You try to hold an in-depth conversation and they have no idea what your talking about, and want to discuss the latest actor/actress divorce. It's shocking how much people believe as truth that isn't even thinly veiled lies. It shocks me when the only argument for some new age crap is "well science can't understand or explain it."
 
Paranormal community collapsing: Truth easier to obtain

The cost of continuous litigation in courts by some in the paranormal community --- and I agree filing lawsuits and subpoenas is an easy and relative low-cost means for paranormal delusionists to symbolize themselves under hardship and fighting a credible war campaign against closed minds who threaten their business --- has not ultimately proved successful. While it may have a VERY short time value in temporarily protecting profitable income while they can continue to con the public and cite bogus visions, their continued presence before the public in courts ultimately collapses the very credibility that eludes them. In the case of several "psychic detectives" the more public notice they obtained that wasn't driven by their own marketing spin and deceptions has proved their ruin. One doesn't shed tears for the fall of a community which promotes many frauds.
 
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I worked at a psychiatric facility that embraced "New-Age" philosophy. Their mantra was that anything is possible, and you can't prove their ideas wrong. I quit arguing about "Chi lines" of energy. Any scientific discussion was laughed at. Even proof that their ideas were no more than random chance occurrences was discounted as "It doesn't work if a skeptic is present, or some other pile of manure. I saw a contest where they offered dowsers a huge reward if they could prove they could find the 5 gallon buckets that held water. They had buckets of sand and buckets of water under boards, and dowsers flocked to the experiment to get the reward. Not one succeeded in finding water any more often than random chance. Even if someone did, it doesn't prove that it works, only that if you toss a coin a thousand times, you will occasionally get some implausible random results like 6 heads in a row. If I make "Psychic predictions" a thousand times, and one is correct, people forget the 999 predictions that didn't come true, and focus on the 1 that did.
 
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I saw a contest where they offered dowsers a huge reward if they could prove they could find the 5 gallon buckets that held water. They had buckets of sand and buckets of water under boards, and dowsers flocked to the experiment to get the reward. Not one succeeded in finding water any more often than random chance. Even if someone did, it doesn't prove that it works, only that if you toss a coin a thousand times, you will occasionally get some implausible random results like 6 heads in a row. If I make "Psychic predictions" a thousand times, and one is correct, people forget the 999 predictions that didn't come true, and focus on the 1 that did.


Sounds like James Randi in Australia
 
Sounds like James Randi in Australia

LOL, SO SORRY! That is exactly where I saw it. Wow, I will make a more concerted effort to list my sources. I get so excited to post I forget to source my answer.
 

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