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Nobel Literature Prize

Patrick

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This year's prize goes to Elfriede Jelinek of austria, who writes plays against the U.S. invasion of Iraq. Who is this person? I've never heard of her. Also the co-winner is Kenya's Wangari Maathai (big on your reading list, right?) who suggests that AIDS is a biological weapon that the West planted in africa to wipe out the black race.

Here's a list of literature laureats:

http://nobelprize.org/literature/laureates/

What percentage are recognized great authors? It appears that the best way to get this award in the current era is to criticize white people, the U.S., the West, capitalism, etc, and be from a third world country. The literature can be paltry and idiotic - what counts is does it pass the PC filter. It's kind of funny that the swedish academy thinks that there are all these ultra-wise primitives running around in the jungle who can teach the honkies a thing or too. I lived in Sweden for half a year and generally developed an affection for the swedish people and culture, but they repeatedly impressed me as rather naive. Up on the scandinavian penisula, there was actually a feeling of remoteness even from most of europe.

An aside: This apparent attitude sort of reminds me of Benjamin Franklin visiting the court of Versailles during the american revolution, patiently trying to coax troops and money out of the french to support the war. He was a big hit at court with his manner and witticisms. Since he came from america, he was judged to be a primitive, and his wisdom was thought to be some kind of miracle - like what you hear from idiot-savants. Franklin played on this "barbarian" sterotype and wore a coonskin cap around Paris, although he wouldn't have in a million years in Philadelphia. Of course, some of this same attitude of euros toward the US survives to the present day - apparently a permanent feature of euro outlook.
 
By all means, please regale us with tales of how you felt when you read books by these authors. Please be specific, and provide a comprehensive list. I'm sure you wouldn't want anyone to think that you just go around parroting Rush without finding out for yourself.
 
By all means, please regale us with tales of how you felt when you read books by these authors.

"Us"?? First, let me award you today's ***Chat Room Pussy Award*** for cowering behind the "us". :D

Secondly, do I really need to read anything by someone who thinks AIDS is a plot against blacks, to make a general judgement? Oh, wait a minute .... with all the crackpot theories I've heard from the liberal/left zoo here, I guess that question won't have much resonance. :)
 
I do not agree with Maathai on the subject of AIDS. She clearly do net know what she is talking about, even though she is a biologist. Neither do Patrick know what he is talking about, Maathai did not share the nobel prize in literature. She won the Nobel peace price, which incidentally is awarded by the Norwegian gowernment. But that is another story.
 
Patrick said:
By all means, please regale us with tales of how you felt when you read books by these authors.

"Us"?? First, let me award you today's ***Chat Room Pussy Award*** for cowering behind the "us". :D

Secondly, do I really need to read anything by someone who thinks AIDS is a plot against blacks, to make a general judgement? Oh, wait a minute .... with all the crackpot theories I've heard from the liberal/left zoo here, I guess that question won't have much resonance. :)
OK, thanks Rush.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here, as usual.
 
do not agree with Maathai on the subject of AIDS. She clearly do net know what she is talking about, even though she is a biologist. Neither do Patrick know what he is talking about, Maathai did not share the nobel prize in literature. She won the Nobel peace price, which incidentally is awarded by the Norwegian gowernment. But that is another story.

I was misinformed about the peace prize by Time. I 'm well aware of which governments award which prizes. But I'm glad for the correction - both prizes for a long time have been awarded almost completely on the PC criteria I mentioned - nothing to do with peace or literature - my comments in that regard stand unimpeached.
 
OK, thanks Rush.

Move along folks. Nothing to see here, as usual.


"Thanks Rush"! Ha ha - such finely honed wit - I laughed! If there is nothing here to see, why do you feel compelled to inform "us"? Couldn't they see it themselves? Me thinks the dimwit protesteth too much. :)
 
Patrick said:
It appears that the best way to get this award in the current era is to criticize white people, the U.S., the West, capitalism, etc, and be from a third world country.

The last ten Nobel Lit Prize were from:
2004 Elfriede Jelinek - Austria
2003 J.M. Coetzee - South Africa
2002 Imre Kertész - Hungary
2001 V.S. Naipaul - United Kingdom (b in Trinidad)
2000 Gao Xingjian - France (b in China)
1999 Günter Grass - Federal Republic of Germany
1998 José Saramago - Portugal
1997 Dario Fo - Italy
1996 Wislawa Szymborska - Poland
1995 Seamus Heaney - Ireland

Where is that bias towards the third world?
 
Patrick said:
What percentage are recognized great authors? It appears that the best way to get this award in the current era is to criticize white people, the U.S., the West, capitalism, etc, and be from a third world country. The literature can be paltry and idiotic - what counts is does it pass the PC filter. It's kind of funny that the swedish academy thinks that there are all these ultra-wise primitives running around in the jungle who can teach the honkies a thing or too. I lived in Sweden for half a year and generally developed an affection for the swedish people and culture, but they repeatedly impressed me as rather naive. . .
And you have repeatedly impressed me on this forum as . . . not having a fricking clue.

I'm not going to argue about the merits of the Nobel Prize in literature because I haven't read very many of those authors. What I am going to do is take this list and go check some of this stuff out of the library. Just to prove to myself what an ignorant blockhead you are.
 
Patrick said:
Me thinks the dimwit protesteth too much. :)
Ok, I would not usually say anything....but dang, boy, you mutilate Shakespeare! If you are going to use a classical allusion, have the sense to quote properly, and use iambic pentameter if the original does! The mangled quote you use is a sure sign you have not actually read the play you allude to. Properly, it would read

"The dimwit doth protest too much, methinks".


And you know what? I think you do.

On topic...anyone who so mangles Shakespeare has lost any credibility by which to criticise any author...
 

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