andyandy
anthropomorphic ape
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I am opposed to the new ID card system in the UK, and have seen the campaign group NO2ID refered to in the media recently....
i don't really know all the details of the proposed ID scheme so it's difficult to know if they are accurate in their descriptions of the ID system.....and certainly pressure groups are not unknown to exagerate claims
so, i was wondering if other JREFers found the site (and the No2ID cause) useful, and something worth promoting, or if No2ID overstep the mark with their claims?
This is from their "why no ID cards page"
i don't really know all the details of the proposed ID scheme so it's difficult to know if they are accurate in their descriptions of the ID system.....and certainly pressure groups are not unknown to exagerate claims
so, i was wondering if other JREFers found the site (and the No2ID cause) useful, and something worth promoting, or if No2ID overstep the mark with their claims?
This is from their "why no ID cards page"
http://www.no2id.net/IDSchemes/whyNot.phpMassive accumulation of personal data #
50 categories of registrable fact are set out in the Bill, though they could be added to. Effectively an index to all other official and quasi-official records, through cross-references and an audit trail of all checks on the Register, the NIR would be the key to a total life history of every individual, to be retained even after death.
Lifelong surveillance and the meta-database #
Every registered individual will be under an obligation to notify any change in registrable facts. It is a clear aim of the system to require identity verification for many more civil transactions, the occasions to be stored in the audit trail. Information verified and indexed by numbers from the NIR would be easily cross-referenced in any database or set of databases. The "meta-database" of all the thousands of databases cross-referenced is much more powerful and much less secure than the NIR itself.
Terrorism #
ID does not establish intention. Competent criminals and terrorists will be able to subvert the identity system. Random outrages by individuals can't be stopped. Ministers agree that ID cards will not prevent atrocities. Experts attest that ID unjustifiably presumed secure actually diminishes security.
Illegal immigration and working #
People will still enter Britain using foreign documents—genuine or forged—and ID cards offer no more deterrent to people smugglers than passports and visas.
Benefit fraud and abuse of public services #
Identity is "only a tiny part of the problem in the benefit system." Figures for claims under false identity are estimated at £50 million (2.5%) of an (estimated) £2 billion per year in fraudulent claims.
"Identity fraud" #
Both Australia and the USA have far worse problems of identity theft than Britain, precisely because of general reliance on a single reference source. Costs usually cited for of identity-related crime here include much fraud not susceptible to an ID system. Nominally "secure", trusted, ID is more useful to the fraudster.
Overcomplicated, unproven technology #
Computer system #
IT providers find that identity systems work best when limited in design. The Home Office scheme combines untested technologies on an unparalleled scale. Its many inchoate purposes create innumerable points for failure.
Biometrics #
Not all biometrics will work for all people. Plenty are missing digits, or eyes, or have physical conditions that render one or more biometrics unstable or hard to read. All systems have error. Deployment on a vast scale, with variably trained operators and variably maintained and calibrated equipment, will produce vast numbers of mismatches, leading to potentially gross inconvenience to millions.
Taxpayer pain #
Even at current Home Office estimates, the additional tax burden of setting up the scheme will be of the order of £200 per person. .
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