No Good Deed - On US Foreign Policy, Iraq

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From the intelligent and always insightful Lady of Liberty Rachel Mills:

http://www.livejournal.com/users/rachelmills/

Seemed like a win-win situation at the time. We heard about the mass graves, the torture chambers, the landslide elections where 99.7% cast favorable ballots. And the the other .3% were never again heard from. The rumblings of dark ambition as a tyrant who conquered one nation, lashed out at further conquests and was embarrassed and angered at our containment of him. And of course, paranoia in the aftermath of 9/11. "The enemy of my enemy is my friend." We were certain there was a gang-up going on between Saddam and Al-Qaeda. Sources disagree on the veracity of the link. But even the hint was scary enough to freak us out. Our hairpin trigger twitched until...

We finally went in there and took care of business once and for all. Ding dong, the tyrant is reduced to a babbling madman. And Iraqis, for now, are dancing in the street.

But don't hold your breath for the influx of thank-you cards, Pollyanna.

Americans have a very limited and rose-colored perspective of the world, though. We don't understand true upheaval and crisis. We haven't lived through the type of runaway inflation and scarcity they are going through there. We can't remember ever being hungry. Typically we don't have friends and relatives who have disappeared because of how they voted in the last election, or neighbors who will turn you into authorities for a seditious opinion. We don't live in a society where torture is a fact of life, and they still cut off hands as a punishment. Women here are more concerned about a 5% pay differential than being beaten on the street by the roving vice squad for exposing a forearm, or walking without a male relative. It's not just a different world. It's practically a different planet.

There is so much that is radically different about Iraqi and Afghan culture that you can't fully understand just by reading about it. You don't just wipe out memories by writing a new national anthem. These people are deeply infused with a fear of tyranny forever imprinted on their mentalities. These people have experienced how terribly people with absolute power can behave. They've been lied to. They've had guns pointed at them. But there, on the ground in Baghdad, the uniforms behind the guns have changed, and the situation has gotten much worse. Now suicide bombers are exploding every other day. At least with the old uniforms, there was order. And the gas price in an oil-rich country has gone from 250 dinars to 4000 if you can get it at all.

You can explain to these people that when a government is overthrown, this is what happens to the currency it backed. You can explain that there is an adjustment period, a stabilization period when the new power structure is getting worked out and limitations and laws are being tested. It's just growing pains, the price you pay for a better future.

I lived through the overthrow of a dictator. I was in Haiti from '86-'89 in the aftermath of Duvalier and I remember the coupes, the tires buring in the streets, the unrest, the lawlessness. I remember the temptation of Haitians to speak of the "good old days" of Baby Doc when yes, there was oppression, but at least there was order, and life was predictable and tolerable if you didn't cause any trouble. I also remember the attitude the Haitians had toward US/UN involvement, which was largely under the table and highly questionable, but in the people's eyes, was much more understated than our handling of Iraq and Afghanistan. They seemed to mildly appreciate us, but more importantly, they couldn't completely blame us for the unrest and upheaval that came afterwards.

But the Iraqis can. And many of them do. They see it as good that Saddam is gone, but in their eyes, things have not gotten better, but much worse, and all the chaos can be directly attributed to the US moving in with bombs and guns and goodwill. In a simmering stewpot of mistrust, fear and cynicism... well, just don't be surprised if we are never very popular over there. A nation that was once at the mercy of Saddam is now at the mercy of a different, unfamiliar government - ours. And fear of the unknown can be much much worse than fear of the enemy you know and understand. It won't be easy winning the trust of a people whose trust of government is non-existant, and fear and expectation of tyranny is complete.

It's like helping your child. You do what's in the best interest of your child, but if you keep helping your teenager in the same way, you will not be appreciated. And when your child becomes a sovereign adult, they ultimately have to help themselves, and you can assist in a crisis if invited to, but the real work has to be done by them.

I'm concerned we aren't following this paradigm in Iraq and the end results can not possibly good for us. We're helping Iraq paternalistically, as we would a child, not recognizing they are an adult nation in a crisis. We see our adult daughter in an abusive marriage and we go shoot the bastard before she fully decides to leave him. It's a complicated situation, and perhaps there was so meek a cry for help that it was hard for us Americans on the ground to hear it. But for our sake, and theirs, I hope it was there, and the battered woman doesn't end up blaming us for killing her lover and provider, and soon moving on to the arms of the next abuser. The Iraqis have to understand and want freedom. They have to create and work for their own democracy, if that's truly what they want.

We may have the very best of intentions, the best of justifications, but I fear we will continue to be punished for them.
 
Re: Re: No Good Deed - On US Foreign Policy, Iraq

Grammatron said:


That's a lot of mis-information, I can't wait for Ion to agree with it and add some blood for oil thing.

There is good dissent and contrarianism in there. I would rather have it from the libertarians than the haliburton kooks, even if I don't agree.
 
Re: Re: No Good Deed - On US Foreign Policy, Iraq

Grammatron said:


That's a lot of mis-information, I can't wait for Ion to agree with it and add some blood for oil thing.
Any particular bits you want to highlight as mis-information?
 
This is where Shane and I differ. I have no problem with 'blood for oil'. Our blood for thier oil.

The Iraqis have done little to nothing besides beg for help for 3 decades. We finally give it, and they go abut protesting, bombing, shooting, etc.


Course, some will disagree with me. That's fine.

Rachel Mills is kinda cute too. Loved the calander!
 

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