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New WTC Demolition Explanation.

Graham2001

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On the comments thread to Abbys description of her day at Ground Zero is a long comment (reproduced) below that makes the most elaborate 'joos did it' claim I have ever seen.

Israeli Mossad. The Israelis that were busted in NJ worked for a fake moving company - their warehouse was raided and it was completely empty and the owner fled to Israel. Marvin Bush was a principal in the company that was in charge of security in the WTC. On 9/6 security was abruptly relaxed and the bomb-sniffing dogs were removed. On the weeked of 9/8-9/9 there was an unprecedented power shutdown in Tower 2 - no security cameras, no seurity door locks, etc...from floor 50 and up. This same fake company that was a front for the Israeli Mossad was at the WTC during the shutdown - acting as "engineers" who were free to walk in/out of the WTC. When they were arrested...their van had traces of explosives, box-cutters, thousands of $$$, and maps of NYC with hi-lighted areas around the WTC. They were detained for a few months, but Ashcroft later put a lid on everything...arrested hundreds of other arabs on BS charges to blend them in...and eventually released them back to Israel - one by one. poppop

Anyone care to debunk? (Apart from the Marvin Bush bit, I get tired of seeing it pop up.)
 
On the comments thread to Abbys description of her day at Ground Zero is a long comment (reproduced) below that makes the most elaborate 'joos did it' claim I have ever seen.
Anyone care to debunk? (Apart from the Marvin Bush bit, I get tired of seeing it pop up.)

Israeli Mossad. The Israelis that were busted in NJ worked for a fake moving company - their warehouse was raided and it was completely empty and the owner fled to Israel. Marvin Bush was a principal in the company that was in charge of security in the WTC. On 9/6 security was abruptly relaxed and the bomb-sniffing dogs were removed. On the weeked of 9/8-9/9 there was an unprecedented power shutdown in Tower 2 - no security cameras, no seurity door locks, etc...from floor 50 and up. This same fake company that was a front for the Israeli Mossad was at the WTC during the shutdown - acting as "engineers" who were free to walk in/out of the WTC. When they were arrested...their van had traces of explosives, box-cutters, thousands of $$$, and maps of NYC with hi-lighted areas around the WTC. They were detained for a few months, but Ashcroft later put a lid on everything...arrested hundreds of other arabs on BS charges to blend them in...and eventually released them back to Israel - one by one. poppop
I live in Brooklyn, and if I call a moving company, there's a fair chance that it will be run by Israelis. Some,many, or all of their employees may be working illegally. (In reality I use the illegal Russians down the street because they've done me right in the past.) This is not unusual. The moving business has traditionally been a source of employment for workers who may not have their papers in order. Boxcutters in a moving van? I am shocked, sir! (Just think about that piece of CT lunacy for a moment: is the implication that the "dancing Israelis" supplied the hijackers with boxcutters and then left a few extras in their van? AAAArgh!)

The owner heading back to Israel? Maybe a good move, if he was hiring illegals.

That said, I wouldn't be shocked if the "dancing Israelis," as Killtown likes to call them, were spies. I'm sure Mossad has people in the NYC area. They'd be foolish not to.

But if they were spies, they were really, really bad ones, just like the "Israeli art students" who called attention to themselves with their blatantly obvious actions.

These people were in custody for a long time. The FBI, CIA, etc., were not playing games after 9/11. I don't know the details of their investigation, but I do know that no evidence of wrongdoing was found.

The power shutdown in part of WTC 2? So what? It was for a cabling upgrade that was successfully completed, and no similar powerdown was done in the other buildings.

I have seen no evidence that the company that hired the moving van people were at the WTC during the power shutdown, acting as "engineers." Has anyone?

The bomb-sniffing dogs being removed? They were only there because of some phoned-in threats. When the threats stopped, the dogs were removed. Their presence was extraordinary, not their absence.
 
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On the comments thread to Abbys description of her day at Ground Zero is a long comment (reproduced) below that makes the most elaborate 'joos did it' claim I have ever seen.
Anyone care to debunk? (Apart from the Marvin Bush bit, I get tired of seeing it pop up.)

Another rumor to look up. When the towers were aflame, supposedly 3 Israeli men were on a nearby rooftop jumping up and down for joy.

I wrote the above before I read Gravy's post. Gravy, do you know where this story of Israelis jumping gleefully at the WTC disaster first originated? As I don't. Again, I'll try whatreallyhappened.com and rense.com.

kc440
 
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Another rumor to look up. When the towers were aflame, supposedly 3 Israeli men were on a nearby rooftop jumping up and down for joy.

I wrote the above before I read Gravy's post. Gravy, do you know where this story of Israelis jumping gleefully at the WTC disaster first originated? As I don't. Again, I'll try whatreallyhappened.com and rense.com.

kc440
A woman in Jersey City called the police about their behavior. They were pulled over when entering Manhattan in their van. I don't know if the term "dancing" was ever used, or the description "jumping gleefully." I certainly wouldn't be surprised if some Israelis were happy, not at the loss of life on 9/11, but that America would have to respond severely to the attack.
 
On the comments thread to Abbys description of her day at Ground Zero is a long comment (reproduced) below that makes the most elaborate 'joos did it' claim I have ever seen.



Anyone care to debunk? (Apart from the Marvin Bush bit, I get tired of seeing it pop up.)

What? No Israeli Art Students living suspiciously close to Mohammed Atta?
(A popular rant that is based on the mailbox rental address of Atta in Florida and a single Israeli address about a kilometer away. See 911Myths for this silliness.)

I think you just need to google "Mossad & 911" to get an idea as to why we all go "whup-a**" when they start in on the 5 Dancing Israelis or the moving companies. There are hundreds of nasty little people and nasty little organizations out there blaming everything that's ever happend on the Zionists. Fortunately, they wear their hearts on their sleeves, so most people write them off and won't take them seriously. My favored method is to just ask anyone paying any attention to do that google I mentioned above. You can't give them any credence once you see their actual "work".

One "document" proves that they established these moving companies back in the 80's so they could gain the trust of the locals! As if it would take 20 years of 'comfort' to allow one the freedom to drive around in a moving van! As we all know from Mission Impossible, all you have to do is drive into a garage and spray paint a Maxie The Mover logo onto your ultra secret mobile attack unit, and they'll let you right into every secret installation in the world.:p
One whackjob even wrote a book on CIA/Mossad having done JFK!:eye-poppi

The Anti-Zionists are particularly odious, but there is no factual data to be mined to debunk them, generally. The trails go off into no where, because they cite secret documents that we poor blind fools can't get to. And they aren't going to be convinced - they're raving lunatics. The only thing to do is expose people to the mass of material out there that they have produced that gives proof positive to their own insanity.
 
A woman in Jersey City called the police about their behavior. They were pulled over when entering Manhattan in their van. I don't know if the term "dancing" was ever used, or the description "jumping gleefully." I certainly wouldn't be surprised if some Israelis were happy, not at the loss of life on 9/11, but that America would have to respond severely to the attack.

Totally anecdotal, but I was standing just off the Colgate clock in Jersey City when the first one went down (WTC 2). There was a dark-skinned man, possibly Indian or Pakistani, or maybe even Latin American, about fifty feet away who started jumping and flailing his arms. To CTers, he was obviously a Mossad agent celebrating the moment. I saw him twenty minutes later, hunched over and bawling like a baby, though! He had just lost control of his body and emotions in one fell swoop at the abject horror of what he was watching. How does one know what the 3 rooftops celebrants were going through?

I've also tried to track down the 5 Dancing Jews story a few times and it leads off to no where. Particularly cannot find any stories on the Bergen County cop who was reported to originally have them in custody, and who's cited in a radio interview. (I have friends with relatives in the Jersey City force, and I'm going to take it up, personally next time I'm back in the city.)

The most important thing about dismissing the Joos/Mossad stories is that they're just as anecdotal as my story above. If I had called a cop over and said they should check this guy out, I'm sure it would've been reported somewhere as "a businessman in Jersey City reported an Israeli jumping up and down and celebrating". How did that lady know they were Israelis? From the orginal reports, she didn't. She reported suspicious behavior, and some time later, the police pulled over a similar van, that had Israelis in it. I had not heard about the rooftop celebrants before. Is this the same story or a new one?

In the search for evidence, these are the most easily ignored tales because there is virtually no evidence, whatsoever.

Gravy, I'm not even willing to go so far as to accept that they were both Israeli and celebrating, so I don't feel we have to look for motive.
 
The bomb-sniffing dogs being removed? They were only there because of some phoned-in threats. When the threats stopped, the dogs were removed. Their presence was extraordinary, not their absence.


One other thing Grav....

One wonders how the presence of bomb-sniffing dogs could have thwarted the 500+mph approach of Boeing 767's? Oh wait I forgot...the plane strikes were just cover....

What bollocks!

The stupidity of the troofers is truly amazing in it's depth and breadth.

-z
 
Another rumor to look up. When the towers were aflame, supposedly 3 Israeli men were on a nearby rooftop jumping up and down for joy.


Wow. I mean wow. That mossad has really fallen down in the training area. The first thing they taught us at shill school was "don't jump up and down on rooftops until at least 2 weeks after the mission is complete."
 
One other thing Grav....

One wonders how the presence of bomb-sniffing dogs could have thwarted the 500+mph approach of Boeing 767's? Oh wait I forgot...the plane strikes were just cover....

What bollocks!

The stupidity of the troofers is truly amazing in it's depth and breadth.

-z

One wonders why the bomb sniffing dogs never detected the C4 in the concrete core of the building anytime in the last few decades.... :rolleyes:
 

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