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A tape's just been released of Waleed al-Shehri, apparently, reading his video will, and introduced by Osama bin Laden (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/10/wosama110.xml). I'm looking for downloads & will let you know if I find one.

So, this is going to make life even harder for the "hijackers still alive" crowd. What will they do? Ignore this? Say it must be a fake? Or admit they might be wrong. (Nah, sorry, scratch that last one - I don't know what came over me.)
 
ya I saw this a few moments ago on CNN over lunch.

I guess it will put the "Waleed is still alive" issues....not. It is truthers we are dealing with here...

The count down to "forced suicide tape prior to execution of patsy" in 5...4...3...2...

TAM;)
 
That is the guy that Barrett was supposedly searching for. I have never seen any of the major truthers address any of the videos. They only talk about the "fat bin laden" and pretend the others don't exist.
 
JamesB said:
They only talk about the "fat bin laden" and pretend the others don't exist.
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Plus they ignore the other Al Qaeda members in the exact same video. So apparently bin Laden's fake but the others are real.
 
[nitpik]
A video of an individual stating that they will do something is corroborative evidence to support the claim that the individual did take that action. However, it is not direct evidence that they did take that action. It is the difference between:

P1: Person A said they would do X
P2: X occurred
C: Therefore Person A did it

vs

H: Person A did X
Supporting evidence: Person A claims they will do X
[/nitpik]
 
agreed, but along with everything else, at some point all the evidence adds up to "he did it".

TAM;)
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
A video of an individual stating that they will do something is corroborative evidence to support the claim that the individual did take that action. However, it is not direct evidence that they did take that action.
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That's a fair point. The relevance here, though, is that the inside job movement (or some of them, anyway) claim the FBI photo of Waleed al-Shehri is actually that of an entirely innocent pilot who's still alive. So while a video showing that individual doesn't prove he was a hijacker, it is another indication that the FBI had the right photo after all.
 
T.A.M. said:
agreed, but along with everything else, at some point all the evidence adds up to "he did it".

TAM;)
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Yes. The care must be taken in how it is presented. It must be presented as "this evidence supports the claim that he did it", not as, "this evidence proves he did it". It's a subtle, but important difference; one of which, I have no doubt, you are well aware, but I felt necessary to verbalize for all readers of the thread.
 
watch some cerebrally challenged truther make the comment...

"Well if he made this video now, how could he have died on 9/11??"

lol

TAM:)
 
Truther:

Where's the body? Where's the DNA evidence? If I can't see the actual DNA analysis, and a documented chain of custody with MY OWN EYES, than I do not believe it.

TAM:)
 
This little bit of Truther logic has always made me giggle, the idea that we should restructure our criminal justice system so that every single person who doubts an official account of something for whatever inane reason will receive a visit from a law enforcement official to be personally shown all the evidence.

[/run-on sentence]
 
Arkan_Wolfshade said:
[nitpik]
A video of an individual stating that they will do something is corroborative evidence to support the claim that the individual did take that action. However, it is not direct evidence that they did take that action. It is the difference between:

P1: Person A said they would do X
P2: X occurred
C: Therefore Person A did it

vs

H: Person A did X
Supporting evidence: Person A claims they will do X
[/nitpik]
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[nitpick]

nitpick has a "C" in it.

[/nitpick]
 
MikeW said:
A tape's just been released of Waleed al-Shehri, apparently, reading his video will, and introduced by Osama bin Laden (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/10/wosama110.xml). I'm looking for downloads & will let you know if I find one.

So, this is going to make life even harder for the "hijackers still alive" crowd. What will they do? Ignore this? Say it must be a fake? Or admit they might be wrong. (Nah, sorry, scratch that last one - I don't know what came over me.)
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Here's the fixed link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/10/wosama110.xml

It would be cool to have all the Hijacker-Martyr-Videos as an ultimate
proof that we're not talking about some fictional patsies here. Does
anyone have them unedited? (Three are within the "usual suspects"-
video)
 
Oliver said:
Here's the fixed link:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/09/10/wosama110.xml

It would be cool to have all the Hijacker-Martyr-Videos as an ultimate
proof that we're not talking about some fictional patsies here. Does
anyone have them unedited? (Three are within the "usual suspects"-
video)
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Thanks for the link fix! I didn't notice that. :o

I've been thinking about collecting all the videos together. Not sure if an unedited version would work, though - some of them drone on for ages while saying hardly anything at all. I think key clips plus links to the full version for people who want it, would be the way to go.
 
Just out of curiosity and because it'd be a great resource, has anyone ever bothered to gather together all of the confessions of OBL? He must be up to about a dozen by now.
 
PhantomWolf said:
Just out of curiosity and because it'd be a great resource, has anyone ever bothered to gather together all of the confessions of OBL? He must be up to about a dozen by now.
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The truthers cite Bruce Lawrence as "the world's greatest bin Laden expert", who claims the famous "fat bin Laden" video was fake, while ignoring the fact that Lawrence's own book (published several years ago) cites 4 other videos in which bin Laden says that Arabs did it.
 
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