New "Top-Down Demolition" Video Coming Our Way

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It's a four story structure which is indeed demolished with explosives timed to go off from top to bottom. The truthers are already remarking on how it looks "just like" the WTC collapses.

Except you can clearly discern between the explosives going off and the floors pushing debris out as it falls. What looks "just like" the WTC collapses is this, not explosives. Still, confirmation bias will rule supreme on this one.
 
Do we know what building this is? Maybe we can find out how long it took to prep it for demolition.
 
How many of them say it sounds just like the WTC?
 
boloboffin said:


It's a four story structure which is indeed demolished with explosives timed to go off from top to bottom. The truthers are already remarking on how it looks "just like" the WTC collapses.

Except you can clearly discern between the explosives going off and the floors pushing debris out as it falls. What looks "just like" the WTC collapses is this, not explosives. Still, confirmation bias will rule supreme on this one.
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The point is of course that CD's do start at the top, thereby negating a major debunking point that CD's never start at the top. Of course the video and slide show have been around on the net. It is the Miss. Casino Barge Implosion.
I guess the sounds of explosions take on a new meaning from the beginning of the collapse and they probably aren't pop cans exploding as some suggest during the collapse. Granted the fire plume coming from each floor is not seen in the tower, however, one would expect to see that if they were the same type of explosives as in the barge video and constructed in a similar manner.
 
It is the Miss. Casino Barge Implosion.
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Watched the vids.

And therefore is nothing like 9-11-01. At. All.

Thanks for playing.

Keep flinging that rule[10] against the wall. Something's bound to stick someday.
 
Controlled demolitions rarely start at the top -- the goal is usually to have the structure grind against an immovable object (the ground) as low as possible. This controls the debris field, and this means the most momentum due to gravity right from the beginning.

In a four-story structure, however, the thing is so low that it really makes little difference. The gravitational potential will be relatively small.

If you follow the work of Bazant and Zhou, you will accept that a single floor demolished high in a WTC Tower would lead to total collapse of the Tower. This is not in dispute (except most conspiracy-minded folk reject their work, which makes the CD hypothesis much harder to support). Such a collapse woud not, however, resemble what we saw for numerous reasons, not the least of which are the lack of explosive sounds, how the explosives survived impact and fire, how they were planted in the first place, or the gradual deterioration of both structures.

Nothing to see here, folks.
 
Demolition companies could start saving a lot of $$ if they would just start crashing decommissioned planes @ top speed into buildings that are set to be demolished. Brilliant!

Kill 2 birds w/ one stone and have a neat little pile of debris to clean up.
 
HereticHulk said:
Demolition companies could start saving a lot of $$ if they would just start crashing decommissioned planes @ top speed into buildings that are set to be demolished. Brilliant!

Kill 2 birds w/ one stone and have a neat little pile of debris to clean up.
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I suppose that might work if the building in question is designed like the WTC towers and if you don't mind taking out a dozen other buildings in the process.
 
boloboffin said:


It's a four story structure which is indeed demolished with explosives timed to go off from top to bottom. The truthers are already remarking on how it looks "just like" the WTC collapses.

Except you can clearly discern between the explosives going off and the floors pushing debris out as it falls. What looks "just like" the WTC collapses is this, not explosives. Still, confirmation bias will rule supreme on this one.
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Looks nothing like the collapse of the WTC towers- or even what the conspiracists want it to look like.

The most important thing to remember about this video: the detonations occurred at a pre-set timing, they did not time with the collapse as conspiracists have tried assert must have happened on 9/11.

I'm not quite sure how or why a CD like this would occur- since I've had at least 2 experts tell me that a top-down collapse would not be possible because of the rigging and it would be entirely too unreliable and unnecessary. Seeing as this is a relatively small structure- I'm betting the standard practice may not apply. Anyone have any ideas on that?
 
I'm guessing the same thing you guys are - this is a factor of weight.

You demolish a building from the bottom to use the weight of the structure against it. I don't think the weight of that casino barn would have been enough to crush the structure up. It had to be broken up into floors.

The differences between this CD and the WTC are palpable. The size is different, as is the basic structural design. There are easily discernable explosives going off, in both sight and sound. The complexity of the blast design is far more simple at the casino barn than a top-down WTC tower would require. Because the roofline is so close to the ground, there is plenty of time to set off blasts in the path of the gravity-accelerated upper section. (In just a few seconds, the gathering speed of the upper WTC mass would have required split-second timing to remove structural elements below.) And the casino blast doesn't leave any part of the building standing after the initial collapse, particularly immense and important sections of the structure.

The only two things that are the same is that collapse initiates closer to the top than the bottom, and the floors blow dust and debris out as they slam down into each other. The latter similarity is a great illustration of what we've been saying all along.
 
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The point is of course that CD's do start at the top, thereby negating a major debunking point that CD's never start at the top. Of course the video and slide show have been around on the net. It is the Miss. Casino Barge Implosion.
I guess the sounds of explosions take on a new meaning from the beginning of the collapse and they probably aren't pop cans exploding as some suggest during the collapse. Granted the fire plume coming from each floor is not seen in the tower, however, one would expect to see that if they were the same type of explosives as in the barge video and constructed in a similar manner.
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So the CD charges in the WTC were silent. Gotcha.:rolleyes: ( Or did someone pick up audio of charges in the WTC?)

ETA: Wait! What am I saying!???! Surely with THIS evidence there will be a massive march/demonstration of 10,000 or more in NYC or Washington DC before Christmas! I mean this negates a major debunking point! The truthers have to do something more than delay the really, really, final cut of Loose Change! Right?
 
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That was a 3 storey barn for gods sake. It bares no comparison to the WTCs what so ever, and those who do should be ashamed of themselves. As others have said, with a bard this size, the best way to ensure a complete, well controlled collapse would have been to simply collapse every level with explosives, which is what they did.

Swing...come on man, how can you even use this video to promote the WTC demolition theory...ridiculous.

TAM:)
 
The only thing that looks similar is the fact that the roof fell into the debris/smoke that came out the side of the collapse zone...
 
I'm not too sure the CTs are going to want to talk about the 4-story video. It's great evidence against the 9/11 cd theory.

The booms and the flashes pretty well blow the kids out of the water.
 
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HereticHulk said:
Kill 2 birds w/ one stone and have a neat little pile of debris to clean up.
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Those are certainly some ....unique.... definitions of "little" and "neat" you're using.


GT/CS said:
I'm not too sure the CTs are going to want to talk about the 4-story video. It's great evidence against the 9/11 cd theory.

The booms and the flashes pretty well blow the kids out of the water.
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That's never stopped them before, and it hasn't stopped them now. Did you read the whole thread?
 
Horatius said:
That's never stopped them before, and it hasn't stopped them now. Did you read the whole thread?
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Why, yes, I did. And thank you for asking. A little grouchy this morning are we?

Are you refering to Swing's response or something else? If it's Swing you're talking about I totally discount him as a true CTer. He just likes to screw with people.
 
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