New Science Study: Chimpanzees Should be in "Human" Family

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"iologists at Wayne State University School of Medicine in Detroit, Michigan, provide new genetic evidence that lineages of chimps (currently Pan troglodytes) and humans (Homo sapiens) diverged so recently that chimps should be reclassed as Homo troglodytes. The move would make chimps full members of our genus Homo, along with Neandertals, and all other human-like fossil species. "We humans appear as only slightly remodeled chimpanzee-like apes," says the study."

Link to the National Geographic Article
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Homo troglodytes! I love it. :D

Apparently, to do this, you might also have to reclassify some early fossil hominoids in the homo genus as well. But just think of the implications! It would end the struggle people like Jane Goodall have ben waging for years to keep chimps from being abused and caged like dumb beasts.

One thing the chimps have going in their favor is that they, along with humans, are the only animals who are "self aware"-- meaning they can recognize themselves in a mirror, for example, rather than seeing a "stranger."

I'm not saying we should do this, but it IS interesting!
 
The classification of species, families, etc is not in any way precise, so one researcher's opinion on it doesn't have a great deal of weight.

I.e. this is one of those "fluff" articles that really won't do much to advance science in any meaningful way.
 
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Sorry I did..

Some very irresponsible behaviour going on here.. That chimp could decide to 'play', and break every (well a lot of them..) bone in that little girl's ( best guess ) body..
 
arcticpenguin said:
The classification of species, families, etc is not in any way precise, so one researcher's opinion on it doesn't have a great deal of weight.

I.e. this is one of those "fluff" articles that really won't do much to advance science in any meaningful way.
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" Fluff " is it.. Good Ole' National Geographic, catering to the ' Gee Wiz'ers ' among us... It was incredible stuff before we had television.

For instance, the caption on thepicture I linked to below..


A little girl hugging a chimpanzee demonstrates how different humans and chimps look physically, but they are between 95 and 98.5 percent genetically identical
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Crap..

A picture of a girl hugging a Squid would demonstrate how different two amimals can look.

Humans and chimps happen to look very similar..
Did anyone else miss this.?
 
Genghis Pwn said:
One thing the chimps have going in their favor is that they, along with humans, are the only animals who are "self aware"-- meaning they can recognize themselves in a mirror, for example, rather than seeing a "stranger."
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Actually, I believe dolphins are able to do this as well.
 
I would be proud to share our genus with these fine animals.
Even if a chimp did once hit me over the head with a hockey stick.
 
I'll look into this further when a chimp asks me: " Would you like fries with that? "
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Better start looking. There's one at my local Taco Bell drive thru asks me that all the time. And gets the order wrong every time. And can't make change. Although I'm not sure if he is "self aware".
 
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Cecil said:
Actually, I believe dolphins are able to do this as well.
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I've no link for this, but I can tell you now this is crap.

Dolphins have no more intelligence than a poodle. Pigs have been found to be smarter.

And dolphins are pack raping monsters who are truly responsible for both Sadam's weapons program AND the resurgence of the poppy trade in Afghanistan!!

So...um...what was I saying?

Oh yeah. The old Linnean system of taxonomy is being revised slowly based on molecular biology associations rather than morphological ones.

Athon
 
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Cecil said:
Actually, I believe dolphins are able to do this as well.
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I've heard the same goes for the grey parrot.
 
So THAT's who that guy in the mirror is! I've been racking my brain for forty years. ;)
 
aggle_rithm said:
So THAT's who that guy in the mirror is! I've been racking my brain for forty years. ;)
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You should celebrate by eating a nice, fresh banana. Then go taunt the drive-through cashier at Taco Bell.
 
Genghis Pwn said:
You read the whole article and wrote and posted your reply in four minutes?
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No, I did not read the whole article. You will note that my comments concerned taxonomy in general, and did not depend on any specifics of that article. As a card-carrying, perfeshunal biologist I feel qualified to make such comments.
 
I wonder how much overlap there is in Chimpanzee vs Human intelligence. For example, I wonder if the brightest chimp could outhink some severely mentally retarded people?
 
fishbob said:
Better start looking. There's one at my local Taco Bell drive thru asks me that all the time. And gets the order wrong every time. And can't make change. Although I'm not sure if he is "self aware".
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And some clown got a huge grant to publish a paper that says they 'suspect', what we already know.....:rolleyes:
 
Genghis Pwn said:
I wonder how much overlap there is in Chimpanzee vs Human intelligence. For example, I wonder if the brightest chimp could outhink some severely mentally retarded people?
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I wonder about this too, every time I hear a presidential speech.
 
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