New NASA footage.. Hmmm....

Jeff Wagg

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Jeff Wagg
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This video recently appeared on YouTube. Notice anything funny? Could it be that the entire shuttle program is a hoax?

 
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The video isn't working for me when I click on the "I agree" button... :(

EDIT: never mind ~ it's working now :)
 
Are you refering to a reflection of what appears to be two men filming it, or to the missing footage? The missing footage is probably due to the LOS that most re-entries encounter.
 
Yes...I see it now. Those giant jellyfish at the end must be a hoax!!

Although I did not know that you can hear sounds in space. I thought sound required a thick atmosphere as a medium.
 
I remember seeing that. It's the most amazing piece of video I have ever seen in my life!
 
That was freakin' awsome!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Jeff Wagg said:
This video recently appeared on YouTube. Notice anything funny? Could it be that the entire shuttle program is a hoax?

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The only funny part - the truly hilarious part of the whole video was when the camera caught the Earth and its cloud formations. One of the cloud formations - I swear to God - looked exactly like my old girlfriend Violeta McWhifferkugel (in profile). I found that a bit ironic, and oddly funny. We definitely had a "stormy" relationship, you see...

I worked the Shuttle program for 2 years and am trying to see how this video gives it all away as a hoax? Excuse me? So the solid rocket boosters (SRBs) separate from the shuttle, fall back to earth, open 3 parachutes and land in the ocean, where they are recovered, refurbished and reused. We see one land, and then the other in the background.

And from this we determine...?
 
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parky76 said:
Although I did not know that you can hear sounds in space. I thought sound required a thick atmosphere as a medium.
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Not a thick medium, just some medium.

The Solid Rocket Boosters are jettisoned at an altitude of approximately 100 kilometers, which is close to the Karman Line. This is the altitude at which the atmosphere grows sufficiently thin that orbital mechanics exactly balance aerodynamics -- to keep from losing altitude, you would need a horizontal speed sufficient to keep you in orbit anyway. So, there is still some air up there, just not much.

You can see this in the video. The exhaust plumes and condensation trails made by the SRBs do not instantly disperse, but still show vorticity. Compare this to a truly airless burn, such as this famous video from Apollo XVII:


On the lunar surface, the gas jet disperses almost instantly into the vacuum. What effect we see is nothing but dust and small particles accelerated and then gradually settling back to the lunar surface.

Back to sound in space: As the atmosphere gets thinner, the air actually more and more closely approaches an Ideal Gas, which can still propagate pressure waves, i.e. sound waves. What happens, however, is the amplitude of that pressure wave grows less as a function of the mechanical phenomenon that generated it -- the sound still carries, but it grows fainter as the pressure drops.

You can still hear sound from the SRBs and Shuttle Main Engines simply because they are among the loudest things ever built.
 
Look at the curvature of Earth. It shifts from concave to convex and back, repeatedly.

Clearly, this is a hoax... ;)
 
Thirded. It is, however, a completely cool piece of footage, so thanks for sharing anyway!
 
Someone please ban this guy for drinking too much Mojitos. :D

But kidding aside: It looks nothing like faked - even if shortened.
The only strange things are the sound, why the camera is able
to film the second rocket booster while drifting uncontrolled thru
the air, then captures the parachutes above and then the other
rocket booster again... A truly magic camera.

Hard to explain.

So what's the answer to this mysterious footage, Mr. Wagg? :confused:
 
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