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New Gravy video: World Trade Center Not a Demolition

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Here's another video. 47 minutes. It would be less text-y, but my computer's audio input is broken. :)

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This video is about how obviously wrong the 9/11 conspiracy theorists are that WTC buildings 1, 2, and 7 were destroyed by explosive demolition, about how they resort to lying to try to cling to their fantasies, and about how they posit the use of exotic, sci-fi weapons while criticizing others for doing the same.

Issues discussed include controlled demolition, blast effects, cutter charges, potential energy of towers, audio fakery and deception, severity of fires, the expected collapse of WTC 7, "pyroclastic flows," and the dust clouds produced by the collapses.

Includes discussion of claims by conspiracists Steven Jones and members of his Scholars for 9/11 Truth and Justice, Richard Gage and members of his Architects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth, David Ray Griffin, Dylan Avery and Loose Change, Jim Hoffman, "9/11 Mysteries," Jim Fetzer, Kevin Ryan, and others.

Comments are presented by expert structural engineers and WTC investigators Gene Corley, Matthys Levy, Leslie Robertson, Irwin Cantor, and by FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro.

Work and calculations by Zdenek Bazant, Frank Greening, Ryan Mackey and others is cited.

Subject index and direct links to scenes.

South tower inward bowing of exterior wall, no smoke-disturbing detonations precede collapse

South tower fake collapse audio promoted by truthers as real

What actual explosive demolitions look and sound like

North tower audio deception in Loose Change

"I heard a bomb" – witnesses using figures of speech to describe loud sounds. Includes interview with Hursley Lever, witness to the north tower elevator shaft fireball.

Use and effects of steel cutter charges.

A few pounds of cutter charges = huge boom and flash.

Structural Engineer, collapse expert, and Weidlinger Associates WTC investigator Matthys Levy on conspiracy theories

North tower "squibs" compared to explosive blasts

Explosive demolitions eject debris, sometimes dangerously.

Les Robertson, Twin Towers head engineer, on conspiracy claims

WTC 7: deceptive claims made by conspiracists, collapse expected by media

FDNY Chief Daniel Nigro on conspiracist claims

Collapse of WTC 7 expected by all. On-scene account by FDNY firefighter Miller of Ladder 15

Brent Blanchard of Protec, who spoke with demolitions experts on the scene and documented the clean-up process, on conspiracist claims

WTC 7 structural engineer Irwin Cantor on conspiracist claims

New WTC 7: safety and structural features

"Architect for 9/11 truth" Richard Gage gives presentation including audio deception

AE911Truth and STJ911truth member and mechanical engineer Tony Szamboti claims Silvertstein said WTC 7 was brought down for safety reasons, and claims the towers showed upward explosions.

Leading conspiracists claim pyroclastic flows resulted from use of mysterious explosives.

Was all or most of the WTC tower concrete turned to a fine powder?

Conspiracists claim tons of explosives – or a sci-fi mystery weapon – was used. Video of 100-ton TNT blast

Steven Jones, David Ray Griffin, and Richard Gage can't make up their minds: explosives, thermate, or super-secret mystery weapons?

Tons of TNT equivalent were stored in the towers – gravitational potential energy

Mysteriously-expanding dust clouds? Alex Jones accuses, Jim Hoffman investigates.

So what caused THESE dust clouds?

Conspiracist papers published in engineering journals

The conspiracists' best and brightest run from a tour guide

AE911truth & STJ911truth website statistics graphed

Structural engineer and WTC investigator Gene Corley on conspiracist methods – or lack thereof.

Suggestions for study: Bazant, Greening, Mackey, Rogers
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Gravy said:
Here's another video. 47 minutes. It would be less text-y, but my computer's audio input is broken. :)

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Good job. I think if a few truthers heard a real CD from 2500 feet or 2 miles away, they would understand the missing "explosions" on 9/11.
 
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I posted my good job at 47 minutes (-2 seconds) after your post, after watching it. Good timing was my post, enough time to comment on the entire video, I did miss some text, my grandson was eating some sticks; Sorry for the BS, now we have another CT started on the 47 minutes, but more CTish is the 46:58. Where are the missing 2 seconds? /bs

I like the real CDs you included. I am not sure the drones for 9/11 truth will understand where the dust comes from. It makes me wonder what people do? These kids who believe 9/11 truth, need to helped build office space. In the USAF, we did a lot of self help projects. They will discover dust when they redo some office space. Or break some ceiling tiles, or knock off the friable fire protection, or destroy wallboard. Dustified.
 
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Watching right now.

Great demolition examples! I actually had to adjust my sound level, because the explosions were so loud.

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Watching right now.

Great demolition examples! I actually had to adjust my sound level, because the explosions were so loud.

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Yes, I had to adjust the loudest ones WAY down, but they're still really loud. I thought if I equalized them with the others it wouldn't convey what the videographers wanted to convey (don't know if they may have adjusted levels before uploading, of course).

I think one of the most interesting things is that in all cases the demolition explosions are much louder than the collapses themselves. That's easy to understand intellectually, but it's important to hear it in reality when considering 9/11 CD claims. I didn't adjust any explosion levels in the video to make them louder.

I noticed a few audio glitches that didn't appear in my original– must be something about the flash conversion. Out of curiosity I uploaded a version as a Mac .mov file, which Google says it accepts. It converted the whole thing, but it was under three minutes long. I should have saved that version for the ADD crowd.
 
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I posted my good job at 47 minutes (-2 seconds) after your post, after watching it.
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Ah!

I like the real CDs you included. I am not sure the drones for 9/11 truth will understand where the dust comes from. It makes me wonder what people do? These kids who believe 9/11 truth, need to helped build office space. In the USAF, we did a lot of self help projects. They will discover dust when they redo some office space. Or break some ceiling tiles, or knock off the friable fire protection, or destroy wallboard. Dustified.
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I do briefly explain that the majority of the dust tested wasn't concrete, but insulation and drywall. Most of the truthers don't seem to have much hands-on experience with anything in the physical world beyond their keyboard.
 
I think i found a flaw in the film though. The guitar is out of tune. And if everything doesn't fit, then you have to throw it all away. That's how conspiracy thinking goes. But it was a good try.
 
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Ah!

I do briefly explain that the majority of the dust tested wasn't concrete, but insulation and drywall. Most of the truthers don't seem to have much hands-on experience with anything in the physical world beyond their keyboard.
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Yes, you did good on the dust! Excellent. 9/11 truth has failed on the dust.

Sound track reminded me of 'kind of blue'.
 
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Straw men, straw men. See thats what he does he throws out straw men. Thats what liers do, they build strawmen. Mark, its admitted that 911 was an inside job, admitted. Buildings don't collapse magically, its admitted.

/AJ

Great video Gravy. As you can see what I like to do is imagine what Alex Jones would say if he watched something like this, it amuses me.

My favorite part was the tumbleweed.

I also like how you seemed to aim your attacks at the twoof leaders more than their followers. Nicely done.
 
Well done, Gravy. Well done indeed.

And now I am jealous. I've been looking all over the web for pics of the chunks of concrete in those stills. Where did you find those?
 
I just have to say, that I'm about half way through watching this video and I don't want to stop. I have stopped, however to say well done to the film maker a Person called Mark Roberts I believe. Well done! I know you are not a scab out to steal writer's jobs, but after the strike is over, if no one offers you a job then I guess we can assume the Illuminati have assumed their rightful place after all. Keep up the good work!!! Unless of course you are a member, in which case,..... please refrain from scabbery....


ETA: well done...
 
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