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New earthquake conspiracy circulating?

Batman84

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Greetings. This is my first post here. It looks like a great great discussion forum. Try to bear with my long winded posts!

Although I consider myself an amateur skeptic, I scour the net like crazy reading almost everything I can – from the scientific to the paranormal. I find everything to be (at the very least) interesting, whether I find it to be outrageous or with solid evidence. One item that I've been paying particular attention to is the so-called "Moby Dick" of conspiracies, HAARP. I won't go through the process of describing what HAARP's purpose is (I'm sure you all know), but I just can't get enough of these odd "weather/earthquake" theories. Personally, I believe HAARP is what it says it is. All documents pertaining to HAARP are unclassified. University students work at the facility daily. Yearly open houses are even held.

Through many different websites, I've noticed that a lot of conspiracy theorists are worried about a giant quake occurring soon on the New Madrid Fault in the Midwestern US (they are paying close attention to this month in particular). One of their main concerns is that FEMA will be running large earthquake drills during the middle of the month within the region. FEMA has gone on the record saying that the New Madrid Fault is of great concern. Just a few weeks ago, The Great Central U.S. ShakeOut was held in the states surrounding the fault, encouraging people to practice and implement their "earthquake" plan. It also bothers conspiracy theorists that FEMA sent out a Request for Information back in January 2011 asking vendors to provide quotes and information on pre-packaged commercial meals for a hypothetical emergency in the Madrid Fault Line. According to those who are suspicious, this entire "earthquake drill" operation is unprecedented and unheard of. They have also thrown out stories about FEMA showing up and running drills just days before other natural disasters occurred. They also cling to the mysterious bird and fish deaths near the fault line in late 2010/early 2011. They are certain that something is fishy (no pun intended).

I did a little research myself and it looks like these earthquake drills may be quite warranted on FEMA's part. Though some scientists and seismologists are claiming that the Madrid fault is going silent, 2011 is the bicentennial of the worst known spree of earthquakes occurring on this fault line (1811 – 1812). It would be in FEMA's best interest to make sure people are prepared in case the fault line came back to life, especially 200 years since a major incident. I dug a little deeper and found out that The Great Central U.S. Shakedown is not just a "central U.S." affair. They've been holding the same event in places like California and British Columbia since 2008 (2011 is the first year for central U.S.). No one was worried back then. FEMA and NASA partnered back in 2000 to perform a similar drill in California. Nobody said anything about that either. Surely Requests for Information like the one mentioned above are sent out frequently. Doesn't FEMA exist to anticipate what it will take to get us back on our feet after any disaster (whether it be realistic or hypothetical)? To me, it just seems like FEMA is doing their job while some people are being plain paranoid.

Anyways, any thoughts or comments would be insightful. I just figured I would share this little find. It was really the first outrageous claim I investigated and I feel pretty certain that absolutely nothing is going on but earthquake preparedness training. It just seems a little paranoid to me.

Thanks!
 
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Greetings Batman84, welcome to JREF.

Yea, I have read this too, although I have yet to see anyone produce evidence that HAARP is capable of triggering earthquakes.

According to this segment from the History Channel, the way it works is that ELFs are sent up into the ionosphere and then 'bounce back' down into the earth's crust and "trigger" the tectonic plates through ELF vibration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lyR07ZOY0M

If you take a look at the graphic posted on FEMAs blog, an earthquake at the madrid fault does not look pretty.
http://blog.fema.gov/2010/12/70-earthquake-in-midwest-planning-for.html

let's hope it's just a drill
 
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Interesting video. It's the first theory I've seen that makes a bit of sense, but I'm still not sure if I'm convinced.

What I find intriguing is that there seemed to be an absence of nervousness on the net when they first held The Great Southern California ShakeOut back in 2008. At the time, it was the largest earthquake drill in U.S. history with close to 5.3 million participants. It ended up being a simple drill. I wonder why people are suddenly worried about a drill in the Midwest.

If there was something bigger in the works, would they really make it THAT obvious?
 
Interesting video. It's the first theory I've seen that makes a bit of sense, but I'm still not sure if I'm convinced.

What I find intriguing is that there seemed to be an absence of nervousness on the net when they first held The Great Southern California ShakeOut back in 2008. At the time, it was the largest earthquake drill in U.S. history with close to 5.3 million participants. It ended up being a simple drill. I wonder why people are suddenly worried about a drill in the Midwest.

If there was something bigger in the works, would they really make it THAT obvious?

Well FEMA's gotten a lot of flack for their gross mishandling of Katrina, so I guess they really want to be prepared this time.
 
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Well FEMA's gotten a lot of flack for their gross mishandling of Katrina, so I guess they really want to be prepared this time.

That was one of my first thoughts. I wouldn't be surprised if we see more drills like this for other possible natural disasters.
 
I wonder why people are suddenly worried about a drill in the Midwest.

If there was something bigger in the works, would they really make it THAT obvious?
I'm not worried, but I am concerned that the New Madrid quakes of 1812 were, at about magnitude 8.0, big enough to get the attention of even the sleepiest Downstate Illinois official. They aren't common, but they should be planned for.

As for me, I've slept through every earthquake my wife has experienced.

"You didn't notice that? Some of the china rattled and the bed felt like it was a boat."

"Nope."

Another one:

"But I was in the bathroom and everything in the medicine cabinet rattled."

"And I was in bed, fast asleep."

And one at 4PM on a work day:

"Surely you felt THAT one!"

"No, I was working. Had it come during a meeting I might've noticed, just to fill the time."

What we've had since 1812 has been unimpressive, but even I would notice an 8.0 a couple hundred miles away.
 
I've been through one earthquake caused by a related fault nearby the New Madrid Fault. It was about a 5.5 magnitude and the epicenter about about 40 miles away or so. In any case, it was certainly enough to wake both my wife and me. It lasted for about 30 seconds. I was a little nervous, but I think I realized immediately that it wasn't causing any major issues. Just a good shake. Still pretty frightening, though.
 
Greetings Batman84, welcome to JREF.

Yea, I have read this too, although I have yet to see anyone produce evidence that HAARP is capable of triggering earthquakes.

According to this segment from the History Channel, the way it works is that ELFs are sent up into the ionosphere and then 'bounce back' down into the earth's crust and "trigger" the tectonic plates through ELF vibration.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lyR07ZOY0M

If you take a look at the graphic posted on FEMAs blog, an earthquake at the madrid fault does not look pretty.
http://blog.fema.gov/2010/12/70-earthquake-in-midwest-planning-for.html

let's hope it's just a drill
My Occam's Razor buzzer implodes at this stuff. (1) A radio array is NOT needed to explain earthquakes... especially on active fault lines. (2) A radio array is probably not capable of triggering earthquakes locally much less globally. (3) if that guy thinks he triggered an earthquake with prospecting tomography then why don't other surveyors trigger earthquakes? (4) even if his cute demonstrations are what he says they are, do they really work that way on scale up? (5) maybe i don't know enough about ELF but why use a subwoofer? Sound and E-M waves are completely different.
 

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