Necrophilia

[metropolis_part_one]

Is there any form of necrophilia you would find acceptable, and if so, what is it?

 

[The Don]

I didn't realise there were different types.

Would inadvertent necrophilia count ?

 

[DVFinn]

Yeah, Marriage is ok.

 

[Upchurch]

Is there any form of necrophilia you would find acceptable, and if so, what is it?

I suppose I would consider imaginary necrophilia to be acceptable.
Edited to add: It'd be weird, but acceptable.

Any other type, how can necrophilia be conscentual?

 

[daenku32]

Any that doesn't involve me..

 

[Lord Muck oGentry]

Is this a cue for a Dr Hook song( Freakers' Ball)?

 

[Skeptical Greg]

Is there any form of necrophilia you would find acceptable, and if so, what is it?

If it didn't start out as necrophilia, and you stop, as soon as you realize it is.

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Re: Necrophilia

If it didn't start out as necrophilia, and you stop,as soon as you realize it is.

I think there was a Law & Order episode along these lines.

 

[jayrev]

Re: Re: Necrophilia

Any other type, how can necrophilia be conscentual?

A person could consent prior to entering the state of necrosis.

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

A person could consent prior to entering the state of necrosis.

And a living person can consent prior to engaging in relations, but that person can withdraw conscent at anytime and stop the act. A dead person can not continue to grant conscent. Conscent is not a one time deal, it must be continual.

 

[Cleopatra]

Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

A person could consent prior to entering the state of necrosis.

What do you mean?

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

What do you mean?

He means someone can agree to let someone else have sex with their corpse after they die. My point, however, is that this is not sufficent to give consent.

 

[jayrev]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

What do you mean?

Edited because my response was crude and I don't want my reputation sullied.

I just meant that a person could give consent before dying.

 

[Cleopatra]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

He means someone can agree to let someone else have sex with their corpse after they die. My point, however, is that this is not sufficent to give consent.

I asked because in Greece we had a case of a woman that included her" consent" in her Will... of course in case of illegal actions the notion of consent doesn't exist but I wondered if he had something similar in mind.

 

[jayrev]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

And a living person can consent prior to engaging in relations, but that person can withdraw conscent at anytime and stop the act. A dead person can not continue to grant conscent. Conscent is not a one time deal, it must be continual.

I disagree. I believe that a person could contractually waive their right to withdraw consent if they so choose. Of course such a contract would not hold up in court where the act of necrophilia is illegal.

As example, I can legally donate my body to science in writing. This consent can obviously not be withdrawn after my death. Why couldn't I instead donate my body for sexual gratification?

(Not that I would want to...ewww.)

 

[Cleopatra]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

Why couldn't I instead donate my body for sexual gratification?

For sanitary reasons. Those plastic dolls are much safer for people's health....

 

[joyrex]

There was this episode of Sex & the City where one of the girls had sex with an older man, and before the end of their session the man had a cardiac arrest or something. For a while she wasn't aware of the situation.. I wonder if this would count as a borderline case..

 

[Upchurch]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

I disagree. I believe that a person could contractually waive their right to withdraw consent if they so choose. Of course such a contract would not hold up in court where the act of necrophilia is illegal.

Wait a sec. You're saying that someone (living or dead) could be contractually oblegated to have sex with someone and if they choose not to go through with it, the other party could force them to have sex and it wouldn't be rape because of they contractually waived their right to withdraw consent?

 

[jayrev]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

And a living person can consent prior to engaging in relations, but that person can withdraw conscent at anytime and stop the act. A dead person can not continue to grant conscent. Conscent is not a one time deal, it must be continual.

I think one could also argue that consent is implicitly continual until it is withdrawn (the consent, that is, not the...uh...nevermind.) Otherwise a person would be required to continually ask his sexual partner if they still consent to sex instead of assuming so unless consent is withdrawn. That would put a real damper on the mood.

Since a dead person could not withdraw consent, wouldn't continued consent be implied?

 

[jayrev]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Necrophilia

Wait a sec. You're saying that someone (living or dead) could be contractually oblegated to have sex with someone and if they choose not to go through with it, the other party could force them to have sex and it wouldn't be rape because of they contractually waived their right to withdraw consent?

I dunno. I tend to get in trouble when I "play lawyer" in threads like these. Now that you mention it I think there are certain rights that cannot be contractually waived. This would probably apply.

But does a dead person have these rights? If a non-living thing must consent to having sex, then is the use of sex toys immoral because the sex toys are forced to have unconsentual sex?

edited for awkword wording.