Near death experiences of hell?

Nobody died. Nobody went anywhere. Nobody came back from the anywhere they didn't go to.
 
So people in traumatic situations have some delusions about mythology that is common in the society they live in, and that means what?

Am i supposed to be so scared by their stories that i immediately join the cult? Is that the point?
 
1) Is it common for paramedics to yell "YOU NEED JESUS!!!" at people on the cusp of death?

2) Am I the only one who thinks the paramedic's behavior might have influenced the nature of the hallucination?
 
JonathanClement said:
These atheists didn't believe in, or even know about hell, and then they died, went to hell and came back!
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I go all over the place in my dreams - and come back. It's generally quite a consistent imaginary world, mostly pleasant enough, although the bathrooms can be hard to find...
 
Assume that Hell exists, and that Satan exists.

Assume that it is Satan's most sincere and heart-felt desire to get as many human souls to come and suffer in Hell with him.

Question.

Why, if a person died and went to Hell, would Satan let that soul return to earth after experiencing Hell, thereby giving it a chance to repent? Seems to me that if there were any truth to this mythology at all, we'd see some people returning from Heaven (to tell other people that its real, and how wonderful it is, so that others will repent and gain paradise, also)...but nobody returning from Hell.
 
Wolfman said:
Assume that Hell exists, and that Satan exists.

Assume that it is Satan's most sincere and heart-felt desire to get as many human souls to come and suffer in Hell with him.

Question.

Why, if a person died and went to Hell, would Satan let that soul return to earth after experiencing Hell, thereby giving it a chance to repent? Seems to me that if there were any truth to this mythology at all, we'd see some people returning from Heaven (to tell other people that its real, and how wonderful it is, so that others will repent and gain paradise, also)...but nobody returning from Hell.
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Because "God wants us to have free will!" or "You wouldn't believe if God DID show you" or some ******** excuse like that.
 
Because God is Chaotic Evil. Think someone like The Joker: they may not be killing you now, but only because there's a funnier way to do it later.
 
Are NDEs just a Christian deal?

I'd be curious to know how other religions fare. If they aren't into it, I'm thinking they are missing out on some great woo.

I guess, while I'm at it, I should claim for the Atheist team all those people who came close to death and didn't have an NDE at all.
 
marplots said:
Are NDEs just a Christian deal?

I'd be curious to know how other religions fare. If they aren't into it, I'm thinking they are missing out on some great woo.

I guess, while I'm at it, I should claim for the Atheist team all those people who came close to death and didn't have an NDE at all.
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I'm fairly certain there are NDE's related to other religion!

Infact, in this documentary, they're "Lies from satan!" XD
 
kellyb said:
1) Is it common for paramedics to yell "YOU NEED JESUS!!!" at people on the cusp of death?

2) Am I the only one who thinks the paramedic's behavior might have influenced the nature of the hallucination?
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Anthropological studies indicate that hallucinatory experiences are influenced by socialization. Each hallucinator was found to incorporate cultural factors into the experiences.
 
kellyb said:
1) Is it common for paramedics to yell "YOU NEED JESUS!!!" at people on the cusp of death?

2) Am I the only one who thinks the paramedic's behavior might have influenced the nature of the hallucination?
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As a medic, no it is not common :)

BUT .... I have played the role of satan, demon, and angel with some extremely confused patients to calm them down. But hey, they called me those things first ! :rolleyes:
 
I once had a NDE of hell. It was at an anime convention with a 500 pound man in a pink hello kitty shirt intended for a 12 year old girl. Oh wait..THAT WAS REAL @_@!

But seriously, from what I've read and heard, NDEs are meant to be pleasant experiences your brain conjures up in well, near fatal incidents. Don't know how many 'Hell" ones you'll find, if any.
 
How can anyone not even know about the fire/demons with pitchforks version of Hell? You hardly need to be religious or have a religious background to be familiar with visual representations and literary descriptions of the place. Even if you've never been to an art gallery or read Dante it's impossible to avoid cartoons and advertisements that use images of Hell.
 
We did get one positive thing out of this, though:

In 1972 my life was broken. I was a drug addict. I was a criminal. My family was broken. My wife had filed for divorce a couple of times. My children were afraid of me. I really couldn’t hold a job, my mental state was terrible. - Ronald Reagan
 
Trent Wray said:
As a medic, no it is not common :)

BUT .... I have played the role of satan, demon, and angel with some extremely confused patients to calm them down. But hey, they called me those things first ! :rolleyes:
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You could probably write a book about what you've witnessed concerning NDEs. Perhaps you should, with a skeptical bent of course.
 
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