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Naked Scanner Fear

mythstifieD

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OK!

SERIOUSLY?!

Is "naked-scanner-fear" merely paranoid woo?

....debate!


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Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Darat
 
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I'll start with a thought... they say that the scanners won't save or send images abroad or store them there either.

Even if true, I can think of a simple hack. I just gotta grab my sleek little Canon out of my pocket, and hit record. Booyah!

P.S., copy the above image into PAINT, then go Image > Invert Colors and see for yourself. Whoa.
 
Eyeron said:
That probably deserves a NSFW tag on it.
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Agreed.

I don't have a problem with an airport employee seeing me naked. But like I've said... somewhere else, what about Islamic women? What about children? Is it appropriate for an airport employee to look at my 13-year old daughter (not that I have one) naked?
 
Are we sure that's a real scan, or did they just take a pic of a naked women and invert it to create the scan? The pics I've seen from scanners don't show hair on the head. Everyone looks bald, even women.

Steve S.
 
What about the poor unwitting employees who have to see my middle-age body on the scanner,
who's going to pay for their therapy ?
 
How is that photo a breach of privacy? Could someone look at it and say "yes that is <some celebrity>?" Then give information that is not known to everyone? About the best it could do is maybe say if a person has had a breast enlargement.
 
You can say it doesn't matter if someone sees your naked body in a room but there are too many issues:

Can the image be saved, and if so, who has access
If the image is not saved, what if someone gets through the system, how will we check how they did so?
If people are happy to have this naked picture taken, if they y'know have 'nothing to hide', should we just put a camera in their bathroom and bedroom too? If they have nothing to hide...
 
quixotecoyote said:
Now that I've noticed the image is from prisonplanet, I question it's authenticity.
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I've taken an image used in this report: http://www.guardian.co.uk/politics/2010/jan/04/new-scanners-child-porn-laws and inverted it (placed it in a NSFW tag just in case you are in a very restrictive environment):

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I'd say the image from prisonplanet appears a tad more detailed....
 
That image in the OP is a photoshop.

Here is the orig:
NSFW NSFW NSFW http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=154635.0


Here is one I saw a few years ago, so probably from a different machine than the ones being purchased right now.

airport_xray_scanner.jpg


I still would rather have a pat down than do the scanner. For me, it is not health issue, but the images to me are a slippery slope towards 4th Amendment issues. They can say the images are not stored, but there has to be SOME method to do that or they could not be used in court. And if nothing is stored now, they will in the future. People get used to a new technology and then the ante gets upped.

Only a matter of time before images from airport scanners appear on the internet. Anyone who says otherwise is nuts.

Sniffer dogs and trained observers are cheaper and I bet will be better than somewhat trained TSA people.
 
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It is farcical that we are still (officially) treating every airline passenger as if they each pose an equal risk of being a suicide bomber.

Who cares if there are people working in airport security who get turned on by looking at low quality images of people's bodies, even very young bodies? It's a public place. What's going to happen?
 
Ivor the Engineer said:
It is farcical that we are still (officially) treating every airline passenger as if they each pose an equal risk of being a suicide bomber.

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Wish I could find the link but I was listening to a very interesting programme on Radio 4 and the mathematician/statistician on that was arguing that non-random checks would result in a lesser likelihood of detecting people who pose a risk.
 
I know one thing that would put them off seeing passengers naked.

The first time they use it on me. After they finish rinsing their eyes with bleach, they would dismantle the thing on the spot.
 
Darat said:
Wish I could find the link but I was listening to a very interesting programme on Radio 4 and the mathematician/statistician on that was arguing that non-random checks would result in a lesser likelihood of detecting people who pose a risk.
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I'm not so sure about that. How many suicide bombers travel with their families?
 
How is this different from monitored changing rooms in department stores?
 
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