My two psychic dreams

[UnrepentantSinner]

Well, time for me to own up to some precognition.

Once I knew this woman and had a dream about her where I found porn of her on the web. A few weeks later I mentioned it to her and she told me she'd done a nude photo shoot wasn't sure about where the photos might wind up.

Another woman I know I hadn't heard from since Aug. '01. A few weeks ago I had a dream where we had a stiff but cordial encounter at a resturaunt or some public place and as the dream ended she told me she'd call me. Last week she did.

Also around the time leading up to TAM (within a few weeks) I had a 9/11 type dream where I saw planes being blown up and falling from the sky in a long line. During TAM the Columbia disaster was announced and the re-entry trail was very similar the images in my dream.

So...

Should I renounce skepticism, become a woowoo and record all my dreams, or is this just another case of ambivalence and rember the hits/forget the misses.

 

[SquishyDave]

Hmm, good question, lets look at the first one.

Once I knew this woman and had a dream about her where I found porn of her on the web. A few weeks later I mentioned it to her and she told me she'd done a nude photo shoot wasn't sure about where the photos might wind up.

No real surprises here, you're a guy aren't you? If so it's only a matter of if you know someone who has done nude pics. Seeing as guys would inevitably dream about nakedness in some way relating to every woman he had ever known. Hormones or something. Notice how there aren't actually photos of her on the internet, just nude photos around somewhere?

Another woman I know I hadn't heard from since Aug. '01. A few weeks ago I had a dream where we had a stiff but cordial encounter at a resturaunt or some public place and as the dream ended she told me she'd call me. Last week she did.

Hmm, your dream was very early, again, it's only a matter of time before she called you, and your dream was way too early, when is the cut off point for a dream to have relevance?

Also around the time leading up to TAM (within a few weeks) I had a 9/11 type dream where I saw planes being blown up and falling from the sky in a long line. During TAM the Columbia disaster was announced and the re-entry trail was very similar the images in my dream.

Only a matter of time before something airborne crashed, and you dreamed planes, not space shuttles. Close but no million bucks. If phsycicness was real, or we acted on this stuff, all planes would have been grounded based on your dream, and the shuttle still would have crashed.

But I suspect you knew that

 

[T'ai Chi]

Should I renounce skepticism, become a woowoo and record all my dreams, or is this just another case of ambivalence and rember the hits/forget the misses.

Who knows, all we have are testimonies.

 

[UnrepentantSinner]

Hmm, good question, lets look at the first one.

No real surprises here, you're a guy aren't you? If so it's only a matter of if you know someone who has done nude pics. Seeing as guys would inevitably dream about nakedness in some way relating to every woman he had ever known. Hormones or something. Notice how there aren't actually photos of her on the internet, just nude photos around somewhere?

Hmm, your dream was very early, again, it's only a matter of time before she called you, and your dream was way too early, when is the cut off point for a dream to have relevance?

I didn't know she had done nude pics. We were incommunicado for about a month and a half and my dream and her photos were done at about the same time.

My dream about the woman who called me calling wasn't early by any means. I last spoke to her by phone in May 2001, and received a letter from her in August 2001. My dream was sometime in July 2003 and she called me August 2003.

But I suspect you knew that

Well... I guess that's why I didn't mention my dream about Britney Spears and Christina Aguillara being naked and there being all sorts of other fuzzy details I didn't write down when I woke up...

 

[juninho]

being all sorts of other fuzzy details I didn't write down when I woke up...

Reminds me of an old joke:

Two prostitutes talking at the street corner one night:

Pro 1: I got picked up by the fuzz last night*

Pro 2: You should be so lucky, I was swung round by my tits.





* fuzz = police in British parlance

 

[UnrepentantSinner]

Reminds me of an old joke:

Two prostitutes talking at the street corner one night:

Pro 1: I got picked up by the fuzz last night*

Pro 2: You should be so lucky, I was swung round by my tits.

* fuzz = police in British parlance

(fuzz is also US parlance for police, but considered rather 70sish)

Oh, and I do remember Christina being "fuzzless" in my dream...

 

[neofight]

(fuzz is also US parlance for police, but considered rather 70sish)

Oh, and I do remember Christina being "fuzzless" in my dream...

Hi, guys! Hope I'm not intruding here. I always find these kinds of things fascinating, all the more so because I, myself, never seem to have any of these types of dreams, or if I do, I simply do not remember them.

My 32 year old daughter, however, has had many interesting dreams, and a lot of them feature people that are no longer alive. For instance, she dreams very often of a young man who died of cancer several years ago. He was a friend of both my daughter, and my son, and I've written here about some of the weird things that my daughter has experienced which she believes has to do with this young man. i.e. the lights acting up, and the three toy Power Ranger swords going off one after the other in the wee hours of the morning.......on this guy's birthday.

So immediately after her latest dream of him, she woke up hearing a distinct thought in her head. It was "Mele, (the young man's last name) in Italian, means 'honey'." Now, besides a curseword or two, my daughter knows absolutely no Italian. So she is telling me this over the phone later that morning, and saying how weird it was, and asked me what were the chances of 'Mele' meaning honey in Italian?

Now I can speak and write some Italian, but haven't really used it in many years, but that triggered my memory, and I told her that, yes, it really did mean honey, which made her wig out of course, because there is just no way that she would have known that.

Then, even stranger, she said that all morning she had been *seeing* the word in her head, and she said that it was spelled 'miele'. Now I vaguely remembered the word, but I didn't actually remember there being an "I" in it, so I grabbed my Italian dictionary and looked up the word honey, and sure enough, it was spelled 'miele'. So then I went to the Ital-Eng section and looked up 'mele', his last name, and that said ""mele [cp. miele]", cp. meaning, "compare, refer to".

So we both agreed that it was really cool that she had gotten that kind of information from her dream, something that she had absolutely no prior knowledge of. It was a validation of sorts, to us at least, that there is, perhaps, more going on here than most of us realize. ........neo

 

[Hexxenhammer]

When I was in about 3rd grade I had a dream where I was standing at the back of a crowd of several thousand people all dressed in gray uniforms. We were listening to a man, who was to far away to see, talk in a language I didn't understand. I could see the giant red banners on either side of the stage though. Does this mean I was Nazi in a former life? I think not. I think it means my dad watched too many WWII documentaries when I was a kid.

 

[davidsmith73]

Should I renounce skepticism, become a woowoo and record all my dreams, or is this just another case of ambivalence and rember the hits/forget the misses.

They all have the possibility of being precognitive. The problem is that we have all these alternative explanations that are also possible but with no controlled way of ruling any out.

If you want to be sceptical about it I think you should record your dreams to see if this occurs more often or not. That might help you to decide if the above dreams were more likely to be coincidence. Thats still a bit unreliable though.

 

[Correa Neto]

I once had an epiphany...

I was a bit sad regarding suckish life and job, working on a project in the middle of nowhere. I wasout side at night, looking at a very starry sky- no electric power other then our noisy and smoky diesel generator (and it was broken).

I looked up in thought "Is there a purpose for all of this? Is it worth to keep on going? Give me a sign!"

At the very same moment a bright flash of bluish light illuminated the whole area, casting shadows on the ground. WOW! I see the light! The universe answered me! I was about to become a woo-woo, and then my mind started to work again.

I took notes of the time and position of the light regarding the constellations. With this and the coordinates of my camp, I did some research later. It turned out that the bright light was just a flare from one of the Iridium sattelites...

Then I made a big mistake- not going ahead with the idea I had of using the predicted sattelite flares to make field trips with woo-woos to see UFOs, charging a certain ammount of money (just to pay the travel expenses, of course)...

 

[Ipecac]

Hi, guys! Hope I'm not intruding here. I always find these kinds of things fascinating, all the more so because I, myself, never seem to have any of these types of dreams, or if I do, I simply do not remember them.

My 32 year old daughter, however, has had many interesting dreams, and a lot of them feature people that are no longer alive. For instance, she dreams very often of a young man who died of cancer several years ago. He was a friend of both my daughter, and my son, and I've written here about some of the weird things that my daughter has experienced which she believes has to do with this young man. i.e. the lights acting up, and the three toy Power Ranger swords going off one after the other in the wee hours of the morning.......on this guy's birthday.

So immediately after her latest dream of him, she woke up hearing a distinct thought in her head. It was "Mele, (the young man's last name) in Italian, means 'honey'." Now, besides a curseword or two, my daughter knows absolutely no Italian. So she is telling me this over the phone later that morning, and saying how weird it was, and asked me what were the chances of 'Mele' meaning honey in Italian?

Now I can speak and write some Italian, but haven't really used it in many years, but that triggered my memory, and I told her that, yes, it really did mean honey, which made her wig out of course, because there is just no way that she would have known that.

Then, even stranger, she said that all morning she had been *seeing* the word in her head, and she said that it was spelled 'miele'. Now I vaguely remembered the word, but I didn't actually remember there being an "I" in it, so I grabbed my Italian dictionary and looked up the word honey, and sure enough, it was spelled 'miele'. So then I went to the Ital-Eng section and looked up 'mele', his last name, and that said ""mele [cp. miele]", cp. meaning, "compare, refer to".

So we both agreed that it was really cool that she had gotten that kind of information from her dream, something that she had absolutely no prior knowledge of. It was a validation of sorts, to us at least, that there is, perhaps, more going on here than most of us realize. ........neo

Neo, you're not intruding.

With regards to the Power Rangers thing. Did the guy have any connection to the Power Rangers? Were the toys his? Some toys are sound activated or connected to others. Could this be why they all went off? Is there any other reason she would connect them to her friend? The fact that a toy or toys may have malfunctioned on his birthday isn't significant. Something unusual happened, and your daughter noted that it was her friend's birthday. Why would she think they're connected? Sounds to me like the connection between the two events was in her mind.

With regards to the Italian word, we all pick up things we may not realize we know. Her friend may have once told her his name meant honey in Italian and she just forgot. People remember stuff they had forgotten all the time. That seems more likely than her getting this information via supernatural means.

Ipecac

 

[Ipecac]

Well, time for me to own up to some precognition.

Once I knew this woman and had a dream about her where I found porn of her on the web. A few weeks later I mentioned it to her and she told me she'd done a nude photo shoot wasn't sure about where the photos might wind up.

Another woman I know I hadn't heard from since Aug. '01. A few weeks ago I had a dream where we had a stiff but cordial encounter at a resturaunt or some public place and as the dream ended she told me she'd call me. Last week she did.

. . .

Should I renounce skepticism, become a woowoo and record all my dreams, or is this just another case of ambivalence and rember the hits/forget the misses.

The details of the first story don't match. You dreamed you found porn with this woman on the web. She had nude pictures taken. These aren't the same thing. And the only reason you knew about her pictures is that you brought it up. You're stretching a coincidence into a hit.

The second is also a coincidence. You dreamed about someone you hadn't seen in a long time. Some time later she called you. I would say this happens quite a lot to people.

I'd say you don't need to become a woo woo just yet.

 

[!Xx+-Rational-+xX!]

Should I renounce skepticism, become a woowoo and record all my dreams, or is this just another case of ambivalence and rember the hits/forget the misses.

The skepticism part is up to you but I would try recording dreams to see if there is more precognition I was surprised how much I had when I stared this. Dreams can be hard to remember so in order to do that right when waking up don't move at all then try to recall as much as possible while lying still and imediately write it down.

 

[neofight]

Neo, you're not intruding.

With regards to the Power Rangers thing. Did the guy have any connection to the Power Rangers? Were the toys his?

No, the toys were not his, nor did he have any Power Ranger connection that I'm aware of. He's been dead for about 6 years now. The toys are new, and belong to my four-year-old grandson.

Some toys are sound activated or connected to others. Could this be why they all went off?

These are all variations of the same toy, but they are not connected, and were all bought separately. I believe the swords are activated by pushing a button. They did not go off simultaneously, but consecutively. Here is the link for a more detailed account of both the incident with the lights flickering, AND the Power Ranger sword story. If you have not read it yet, I think you might enjoy it. It makes you stop and say hmmm!

Is there any other reason she would connect them to her friend?

None whatsoever.

The fact that a toy or toys may have malfunctioned on his birthday isn't significant. Something unusual happened, and your daughter noted that it was her friend's birthday. Why would she think they're connected? Sounds to me like the connection between the two events was in her mind.

Well, I've gotta say that I totally disagree with you there, Ipecac. In my mind, the fact that it occurred on his birthday is absolutely significant, especially in view of the fact that the other light-related experience seemed to be connected to him as well. These coincidences do seem to be adding up, don't you think? Go and check out that link, and perhaps you'll see what I mean.

With regards to the Italian word, we all pick up things we may not realize we know. Her friend may have once told her his name meant honey in Italian and she just forgot. People remember stuff they had forgotten all the time. That seems more likely than her getting this information via supernatural means.

I do agree with you, Ipecac, that this undoubtedly happens all the time, but even if by some chance her friend had known that his name meant 'honey' in Italian, and even if he had related that to her at some point and she'd forgotten about it, that still doesn't explain how she would have seen the word in her head spelled not 'Mele', the way his name was spelled, but 'miele', and that both words meant honey. How could she have known how to spell it that way, since she is totally ignorant of the Italian language? (as was my friend's son, btw) .......neo

 

[UnrepentantSinner]

Now that I think about it, the second woman was visiting me one night and while I had told several of my friends about her, they'd never met/seen her or had any evidence that she actually existed. Sure enough, one of my other friends called that night... and it was someone who rarely called me, especially at night.

Perhaps I sent out vibrations "call me.. call me" and she tuned into them on the Matrix and knew to call.

Or maybe it was just a cool coincidence.

 

[Ipecac]

No, the toys were not his, nor did he have any Power Ranger connection that I'm aware of. He's been dead for about 6 years now. The toys are new, and belong to my four-year-old grandson.

These are all variations of the same toy, but they are not connected, and were all bought separately. I believe the swords are activated by pushing a button. They did not go off simultaneously, but consecutively. Here is the link for a more detailed account of both the incident with the lights flickering, AND the Power Ranger sword story. If you have not read it yet, I think you might enjoy it. It makes you stop and say hmmm!

None whatsoever.

Well, I've gotta say that I totally disagree with you there, Ipecac. In my mind, the fact that it occurred on his birthday is absolutely significant, especially in view of the fact that the other light-related experience seemed to be connected to him as well. These coincidences do seem to be adding up, don't you think? Go and check out that link, and perhaps you'll see what I mean.

I do agree with you, Ipecac, that this undoubtedly happens all the time, but even if by some chance her friend had known that his name meant 'honey' in Italian, and even if he had related that to her at some point and she'd forgotten about it, that still doesn't explain how she would have seen the word in her head spelled not 'Mele', the way his name was spelled, but 'miele', and that both words meant honey. How could she have known how to spell it that way, since she is totally ignorant of the Italian language? (as was my friend's son, btw) .......neo

I read the thread and see that some people immediately pointed out that the incidents were likely electrical malfunctions of some sort. Any time someone credits a paranormal experience to an electrical device my BS meter goes off. Why? Because electrical devices are futzy. They can be activated, deactivated or otherwise act "weird" for a huge variety of reasons including humidity, battery life, short circuits, electromagnetic fields, or lack of knowledge of their correct operation. There are just too many possibilities to leap to the conclusion of "beyond our understanding."

As far as the lights flickering, if my lights start flickering for some reason and I start asking questions of them, say, what is 1 + 1, and then I ask the lights is it 2? Is it 3? Is it 4? They are bound to stop around the time of one of my answers. Does this mean the answer is right? Your daughter was naming dead people. If she had said Kennedy at the time the lights returned, does that mean Kennedy was doing it?

As you say, there was no connection between your daughter's friend and the Power Ranger toys. The connection was suggested by you to her. The fact that it was his birthday was a coincidence, nothing more. The odds of it happening were, at worst, 1 in 365. Not too bad, actually.

If you take each element of your story, the lights flickering, the toys, his birthday, none of them are impressive on their own. And when you add up the coincidences? Still not impressive. This is a point often ignored by believers: 0 + 0 + 0 = 0.

As far as the spelling of the word, humans don't have perfect recall. Maybe she misremembered her dream. Maybe he told her the Italian spelling at some point. The fact that you off-handedly discount a number of rational explanations suggests an unwillingness to look at the experience rationally.