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My thoughts on David Ray Griffin

qarnos

Cold-hearted skeptic
qarnos
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I've become increasingly suspicious of DRG's motives recently, and I think I might be on to something.

Have you ever read one of Randi's commentaries when he has (sarcastically, I assume) lamented on being on the "wrong side" of the game? That is, being a sceptic is a thankless task, whilst almost anyone with the slightest clue of how the human mind works can make a fortune as a "psychic".

Well, I think DRG has made this decision. I don't think he, like most truthers, is deluded or easily influenced. I certainly don't think he believes in the crap he peddles. I think he knows full well it's a load of bunk - but bunk that sells.

And how!
 
qarnos said:
I've become increasingly suspicious of DRG's motives recently, and I think I might be on to something.

Have you ever read one of Randi's commentaries when he has (sarcastically, I assume) lamented on being on the "wrong side" of the game? That is, being a sceptic is a thankless task, whilst almost anyone with the slightest clue of how the human mind works can make a fortune as a "psychic".

Well, I think DRG has made this decision. I don't think he, like most truthers, is deluded or easily influenced. I certainly don't think he believes in the crap he peddles. I think he knows full well it's a load of bunk - but bunk that sells.

And how!
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Not selling too well anymore, though. His newest book is not in the top 10.000 at Amazon.com.
 
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Not selling too well anymore, though. His newest book is not in the top 10.000 at Amazon.com.
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But I'm sure he's done better out of this than a certain "film maker".
 
I've been sure the man is a fraud from the git-go.

He (and Jones) are so obviously working the Marks it isn't funny.

You know, some days I wish I had no sense of ethics or decency; I could do a much better job of fleecing this flock of sheeple than these two clowns.
 
I put this into another thread, but I believe it fits better here.

An cursory examination of what process theology is (David Ray Griffin's expertise) shows exactly why he's doing what he's doing.

Process theology is based on the process philosophy of Alfred North Whitehead. Instead of reality being timeless and change only happening subordinate to permanent substances, process philosophy sees change as the cornerstone to reality. What something is becoming is far more important than what it is. In process philosophy, the mental snapshot we take of this changing, evolving world is the illusion.

The activation of potentialities is the true work of the catalysts of society. David Ray Griffin is now embarked on making his view of 9/11, for all intents and purposes, real. With no objective base for reality, who cares about the facts of 9/11? What's important is what 9/11 has become, or what 9/11 is becoming. Since 9/11 has become one of the justifications for an immoral war (in his view), he can rob the war of this motivation -- he can fight evil itself -- by changing 9/11.

It doesn't matter that he is changing 9/11 into an lie in order to do so. His motive is pure, his end is pure. It is better for him that 9/11 become a tangled, unverifiable mess of an event than to be a clear motivation for war, because to him, that means the event is out of play. It is inert. He'd prefer it to be a powerful motiving force for the anti-war movement, but out of bounds works for him, too.

But something like 9/11 won't be an inert event in world history for hundreds of years. What David Ray Griffin actually is doing is mixing societal dynamite. By turning 9/11 into a tangled mess, there is no actual predicting what people will use it for. It isn't inert, but unstable. And an event with the motivating power 9/11 possesses must not become unstable. There is no telling what an unstable individual or mob convinced of David Ray Griffin's lies and inaccuracies might do.

David Ray Griffin is close to the end of his career and his life. Evidently, he wants to go out with a bang.
 
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