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Mubarak sentenced to life

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Hosni Mubarak sentenced to life

A court in Cairo has sentenced Egyptian ex-President Hosni Mubarak to life imprisonment for complicity in the killing of demonstrators during last year's uprising.

The 84-year-was convicted after a 10-month trial in a special court.

Mr Mubarak is the first former leader to be tried in person since the start of the Arab Spring in early 2011.

The judge suspended the session after shouts erupted in the courtroom as the verdict was being read out.
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On the other hand, if there were a way for these dictators to retire and turn over the country to freedom and democracy, maybe Syria wouldn't be fighting so hard.
 
Beerina said:
On the other hand, if there were a way for these dictators to retire and turn over the country to freedom and democracy, maybe Syria wouldn't be fighting so hard.
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There is. The accepted protocol is to fly to Saudi Arabia although we could probably arrange something somewhere else if it was really required. Problem is that it means there is no penalty for being a murderous dictator since you can kill people for years then when defeat is staring you in the face you can get off Scott free.


In practice this is largely hypothetical. You don't rise to the position of dictator if you are a quitter and of course while you may be able to run away your supporters may chose to fight rather than being gunned down without resisting.
 
Mubarak "clinically dead"

Former Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak, 84, was declared clinically dead shortly after arriving at a military hospital in Cairo, where he was taken after suffering a stroke and cardiac arrest, medical sources told the state-run Mena News Agency.

Official reports of the stroke and cardiac arrest came earlier Tuesday. Adel Saeed, spokesman of the Egyptian prosecutor, had told CNN that Mubarak's heart had stopped, and that personnel revived him with "electric shocks and CPR." State-run Nile TV reported that Mubarak suffered a stroke.
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Cylinder said:
Mubarak "clinically dead"
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The update to the story says

Military official disputes report of Mubarak's clinical death

[Updated at 6:09 p.m. ET] Conflicting reports emerged late Tuesday over whether the 84-year-old former president of Egypt, Hosni Mubarak, had died.

The state-run Middle East News Agency, citing medical sources, said he was declared clinically dead shortly after arriving at a military hospital in Cairo, where he was taken after suffering a stroke and cardiac arrest earlier in the day.

But Gen. Mamdouh Shahin, a member of the Supreme Council of the Armed Forces, told CNN, "He is not clinically dead as reported, but his health is deteriorating and he is in critical condition."
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The word "clinically dead" struck me as strange. Is he merely dead or is he really most sincerely dead?
 
Puppycow said:
The update to the story says



The word "clinically dead" struck me as strange. Is he merely dead or is he really most sincerely dead?
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Wouldn't pay much attention to that - probably just means he is on life-support so the military can decide when he officially should die.

I had thought he was one of the many high profile folk who are "too ill to stand trial" but then manage to live on for many years. So unless the military did decide to bump him off it appears he was the exception that proves the rule.

I think it is now even more clear how much he was simply a figurehead for the military, I wonder how much real power he had in the last few decades?
 
Darat said:
I think it is now even more clear how much he was simply a figurehead for the military, I wonder how much real power he had in the last few decades?
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Oh, I think he was more than merely a figurehead. According to reports he used his position to become one of the richest men in the world. A figurehead doesn't hold power for 40 years. Of course all dictators need allies and the most important ally for any dictator is the military. So of course the military had a lot of privileges under Mubarak. This is true in any dictatorship.
 
****, I had one of the greatest thread-ending posts of all time, and he hadda go and start dying, re-opening it! :mad:
 
Beerina said:
On the other hand, if there were a way for these dictators to retire and turn over the country to freedom and democracy, maybe Syria wouldn't be fighting so hard.
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Like Libya's been turned over to "freedom and democracy"?
 
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