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In the commentary of 27 July 2007, Mr. Randi wrote:
Silly patents... we'll come back to them later. Let's first deal with what Mr. Randi calls a "canard." Let's start with the act passed by Congress, 35 U.S.C. (United States Code) section 114:
Does the Patent Office ask for working models in most cases? For that, we turn to the administrative rules adopted by the USPTO, 37 C.F.R. (Code of Federal Regulations) section 1.91, which provide:
Anybody want to hazard a guess as to what one of those exceptions might be? Here's an official link to the web site of the United States Patent and Trademark Office, specifically the Manual of Patent Examining Procedure. These are the rules that the Examiners follow, and they include quotations from both the U.S.C. and the C.F.R. passages that I quoted. MPEP 608.03 provides:
This is no canard. The person who pointed it out is not naive, but well-informed.
Mr. Randi is wrong, and he might even owe somebody an apology.
By the way, here's what The Economist recently had to say on the point:
Now, having said that, the USPTO has apparently been duped into issuing a patent or two for a perpetual motion machine. It is rare, but it seems to have happened. Take a look at this patent, entitled "Motionless electromagnetic generator." Some physicists have said that this thing is tantamount to a perpetual motion machine, although the patent itself denies such a thing:
Now to silly patents. Man, there are a lot of those. Before I get started with the really goofy patents, let me say that some silly ideas are certainly legitimately patentable. If someone invents a new kind of practical joke device (say, an iPhone look-alike that squirts water or makes a squeaky noise or something), that could be a patentable device. It's silly, and its not going to cure cancer or increase the mileage on your car, but it could be a source of amusement. If it's novel and non-obvious and useful (even if that use is to provoke amusement), it's patentable. There is no requirement that it be "non-silly." (By the way, the costs of examination are picked up by the applicant, not by the friendly neighborhood taxpayer. So if the applicant wants his silly idea examined, and he's willing to pony up the fees, then perhaps he ought to get what he paid for.)
One recipient of a possibly silly patent might be our bud, Penn Jillette. See his patent here.
In this thread, I discuss some common misconceptions about patents, such as the difference between an issued patent and a patent application. In this thread, I corrected many other misunderstandings about patents, including some from Mr. Randi. This post argues that even if Mr. Randi is wrong in some respects, he has a legitimate point in other respects:
You want goofy patents? I got goofy patents for you! Take a look at "They Invented What?" for some funny patents and patent applications. Or Google "wacky patents" and see what comes up. You won't see many perpetual motion machines, but you may have a laugh or two.
There are a lot of howlers there, but take a look at a patent application (NOT an issued patent!!) for Godly Powers. And here's one that ought to make Mr. Randi's hair turn white. Oh, wait, he must have seen it already. Here it is: Bi-digital O-ring test for imaging and diagnosis of internal organs of a patient: Basically, you use your fingers as a CAT scan! Click the "Images" button at the top of the screen (you will need a TIFF viewer) to see the pictures. This is an issued patent!
The subject matter of the commentary to which Mr. Randi links is actually described in the April 19, 2002 edition of Swift, and it has nothing to do with perpetual motion. It is a silly idea, and a silly patent, yes; but it is not related to perpetual motion.I just saw a typically naïve comment that repeats a canard about the requirements of our patent office:
Wrong. The USPTO requires nothing of the kind. They’ll issue patents to just about anything, no matter how silly it is. For an example, see randi.org/jr/042602.html – do a search for “patent.”Right, and in the US the USPTO, our patent office, actually requires people to send in physical working samples of supposed perpetual motion machines because they have historically received so many claims for patents to this system.
Silly patents... we'll come back to them later. Let's first deal with what Mr. Randi calls a "canard." Let's start with the act passed by Congress, 35 U.S.C. (United States Code) section 114:
So the Patent Office can (i.e., it is legally empowered to) ask for working models.The Director may require the applicant to furnish a model of convenient size to exhibit advantageously the several parts of his invention.
When the invention relates to a composition of matter, the Director may require the applicant to furnish specimens or ingredients for the purpose of inspection or experiment.
Does the Patent Office ask for working models in most cases? For that, we turn to the administrative rules adopted by the USPTO, 37 C.F.R. (Code of Federal Regulations) section 1.91, which provide:
So the Patent Office generally does not require working models for most inventions, but there are exceptions.(a) A model or exhibit will not be admitted as part of the record of an application unless it:
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(2) Is specifically required by the Office; or
(3) Is filed with a petition under this section including: (i) [a fee]; and (ii) An explanation of why entry of the model or exhibit in the file record is necessary to demonstrate patentability.
Anybody want to hazard a guess as to what one of those exceptions might be? Here's an official link to the web site of the United States Patent and Trademark Office, specifically the Manual of Patent Examining Procedure. These are the rules that the Examiners follow, and they include quotations from both the U.S.C. and the C.F.R. passages that I quoted. MPEP 608.03 provides:
There it is, in black and white. Feel free to check it out.Models or exhibits are generally not admitted as part of an application or patent unless the requirements of 37 CFR 1.91 are satisfied. With the exception of cases involving perpetual motion, a model is not ordinarily required by the Office to demonstrate the operability of a device. If operability of a device is questioned, the applicant must establish it to the satisfaction of the examiner, but he or she may choose his or her own way of so doing. (emphasis mine)
This is no canard. The person who pointed it out is not naive, but well-informed.
Mr. Randi is wrong, and he might even owe somebody an apology.
By the way, here's what The Economist recently had to say on the point:
Nowadays the United States Patent and Trademark Office (USPTO) refuses to review a perpetual-motion machine unless it is accompanied by a working prototype.
Now, having said that, the USPTO has apparently been duped into issuing a patent or two for a perpetual motion machine. It is rare, but it seems to have happened. Take a look at this patent, entitled "Motionless electromagnetic generator." Some physicists have said that this thing is tantamount to a perpetual motion machine, although the patent itself denies such a thing:
It should be noted that some patents refer to "perpetual motion" in the conventional sense, namely, that something is always moving (like the tides or the wind or the orbits of the planets or a hyperactive child). In other words, some patents do not use the term "perpetual motion" to describe any purported violation of the laws of thermodynamics.Thus, an electromagnetic generator operating in accordance with the present invention should be considered not as a perpetual motion machine, but rather as a system in which flux radiated from a permanent magnet is converted into electricity, which is used both to power the apparatus and to power an external load. This is analogous to a system including a nuclear reactor, in which a number of fuel rods radiate energy which is used to keep the chain reaction going and to heat water for the generation of electricity to drive external loads.
Now to silly patents. Man, there are a lot of those. Before I get started with the really goofy patents, let me say that some silly ideas are certainly legitimately patentable. If someone invents a new kind of practical joke device (say, an iPhone look-alike that squirts water or makes a squeaky noise or something), that could be a patentable device. It's silly, and its not going to cure cancer or increase the mileage on your car, but it could be a source of amusement. If it's novel and non-obvious and useful (even if that use is to provoke amusement), it's patentable. There is no requirement that it be "non-silly." (By the way, the costs of examination are picked up by the applicant, not by the friendly neighborhood taxpayer. So if the applicant wants his silly idea examined, and he's willing to pony up the fees, then perhaps he ought to get what he paid for.)
One recipient of a possibly silly patent might be our bud, Penn Jillette. See his patent here.
In this thread, I discuss some common misconceptions about patents, such as the difference between an issued patent and a patent application. In this thread, I corrected many other misunderstandings about patents, including some from Mr. Randi. This post argues that even if Mr. Randi is wrong in some respects, he has a legitimate point in other respects:
Now, to wind up this little essay, let's have some fun!First, some (apparently) pseudoscientific or near-pseudoscientific patents occasionally get through [such as the one I mentioned above].
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Second, some patents seem to get issued for previously invented things. A classic example of this may be US Pat. 6,368,227, which is discussed in Mr. Randi's commentary of April 19, 2002.
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Third, some downright loony patent applications get filed. Some of these applications come from crackpots, some come from the mentally ill, some come from honest inventors who don't know any better. ... These patent applications are often published as required by law. The fact that they are published and appear on the USPTO web site does not mean that the Patent Office thinks they have any merit. (Chances are, the examiners laugh their butts off when they see such applications.) Rarely, very rarely, do patent applications like this get anywhere.
Fourth, the fact that a patent issues does not mean that the invention actually works, or that it works as well as the inventor says that it does.
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And finally, many patent holders falsely convey the impression that, because the invention has "earned" a US patent, that the invention works and has a governmental endorsement. Such an impression is almost always false. Unfortunately, it is not the Patent Office's job to regulate advertising to see whether assertions made to the public about patents are honest. That job is performed through other governmental channels.
You want goofy patents? I got goofy patents for you! Take a look at "They Invented What?" for some funny patents and patent applications. Or Google "wacky patents" and see what comes up. You won't see many perpetual motion machines, but you may have a laugh or two.
There are a lot of howlers there, but take a look at a patent application (NOT an issued patent!!) for Godly Powers. And here's one that ought to make Mr. Randi's hair turn white. Oh, wait, he must have seen it already. Here it is: Bi-digital O-ring test for imaging and diagnosis of internal organs of a patient: Basically, you use your fingers as a CAT scan! Click the "Images" button at the top of the screen (you will need a TIFF viewer) to see the pictures. This is an issued patent!