More Speculative Fun: If Alien Contact Was Real...

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I thought the astral projection was fun and I'm enjoying the thread about CERN-tain DOOM I started in SM&T. I like speculative threads. I like seeing what comes out when we assume things that likely aren't and look at what the effects/results might be. These are fun. You guys have a lot of knowledge and imagination. And I did want to ask somewhat regularly for speculation on how our world would be if certain woo was true.

So in honor of NASA's ZOMG WE HAZ ANNOUNCEMENT:

Alien contact with the Earth? What if it were true? Anything from abductions (w/ or w/out anal probing) to a secret rule by Reptoids to ancient astronauts is fair game here. (If you can combine them all and make it work, I'll steal a Marvel No-Prize to give to you.)

So, oh crap, we have/had/have had alien contact. Now what? (Or what changed or what will change)
 
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Find out exactly what they're like and what biochemistry they have, so that we can rub the creationists' collective noses in the separate evolution of life.
 
Find out exactly what they're like and what biochemistry they have, so that we can rub the creationists' collective noses in the separate evolution of life.

No, they'll just say that God created the alien beings just to test our faith.

And then they'll say there's no evidence of alien evolution.

And Ben Stein will produce a movie claiming educators have lost their jobs for teaching alienism.
 
Some idiot would eventually make a vapid reality TV show about it. I can absolutely guarantee that would happen.

Who Wants to Marry A Zeta Reticulan
The Galaxy's Next Top Model
Na-noo 911

The dumber the concept, the more likely it is to happen.
 
So, oh crap, we have/had/have had alien contact. Now what? (Or what changed or what will change)

Specifics please.

I've thought about various sci-fi stories (and fan re-writes of some), about alien contact...

... with a re-write it's easy, but with a new story, one has to ask, what is the nature of said aliens?
 
If this contact consisted of receiving a radio message from outer space, I think the effects would be quite boring. I think it would be highly unlikely we would be able to decypher it, and if we could I think it is highly unlikely it can contain anything we didn't already know. For about a week or so there will be leaders blabbing on how "this is the greatest scientific discovery ever now that we finally know we are not alone". After that people will just shrug their shoulders and go on with their lives as if nothing had happened. And they'd be right. It wouldn't be all that Earthshattering at all.

There will of course be people who claim to be able to decypher it, who will write books about what profound things the aliens are supposed to tell us; things like "be good" and "don't be bad" and perhaps even prophesies of things that have already happened but didn't happen when the message was sent. It will be pretty much like the Bible Codes or any other misguided attempt to derive meaning from random codes.

A spaceship landing on Earth with aliens in it wanting to meet with us is a different issue altogether. Movies pretty much all depict the good aliens as looking pretty much like ourselves, and the bad ones as scary bugs. But if you look at the conflicts in the world, it is often the similarities instead of differences between people's that causes wars. Being similar often means wanting or needing similar things, things that you may not want to share.
The Israeli-Palestinian conflict is I think a good example: two religions with very similar tenets and many of the same holy places are in a bitter struggle with no end in sight. That wouldn't be the case if they had very different goals, if their holy cities were in opposite places on the globe.

If a flying saucer would land and from it came aliens who differed from us only in hairdo, pointedness of ears and the fact that they greet eachother with handgestures that may take some people a full minute to master, I would start to worry. A lot. The fact that they are like us, likely means they want the things we want and wouldn't want to give us things we would not give up. They would likely become our competitors instead of our friends. And they would probably not have come here if they didn't think they could get something from us.

Aliens that are far more alien would probably not cause as much trouble, if they want completely different things we want. But they also wouldn't have much of an incentive to visit us either and prefer to ignore us. If they do show up they may not even recognise us as intelligent beings (and we may not recognise them as such), which may mean they might harm us (or we them) without realising it.

I don't worry about aliens with vastly superior technology or vastly greater physical strength trying to make us their slaves. Honestly, what would be the point? I never understood that about many scifi B movies.
 
Specifics please.

I've thought about various sci-fi stories (and fan re-writes of some), about alien contact...

... with a re-write it's easy, but with a new story, one has to ask, what is the nature of said aliens?

Well, that's part of the fun here. The nature of the aliens is entirely up to you in this. Take an idea, run with it to its logical conclusion.

If you want a specific, how about the Reptoids?
 
Well, that's part of the fun here. The nature of the aliens is entirely up to you in this. Take an idea, run with it to its logical conclusion.

If you want a specific, how about the Reptoids?

Pardon my lack of CT currency, but what is a Reptoid? Is it like V?
 
I'd like to see SETI start picking up alien TV. People always talk about receiving a message designed for us or some kind of interstellar radio beacon, why not just stray signals from Alien TV stations?

Imagine all the boffins getting excited about finding a way to decode the signal only to find that they were looking at some Alien version of "I Love Lucy" or Monday night football...

Would people start getting sucked into Alien soap operas? Alien politics? Alien conspiracy theories?

So the signal is from a star a thousand lightyears away and all these little comedies and tragedies were played out a long time ago, people are still obsessed with this glimpse at another world, until one day the signal stops...


Pulp Mags here I come!!!
 
Earth as It Might Have Been

Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, there was a small blue-green planet that had never been contacted by any civilized culture. Yes, I know it sounds unlikely, but somehow this uninspiring dot was missed by the Intelligence Agency (and if you had seen their intelligence rating, the omission may be more understandable).

Having never learned any of the rather obvious methods for gravity-shielding, the bipedal oddities that seemed to be the technological peak of development on that world plodded along drearily, chained to the crust of their odiferous planet. Only late in their development did they manage to take to the skies, albeit using methods that were comical at best, fatal at the worst.

Medical care required either topical treatments (that were ineffective), ingested treatments (that were ineffective), or intrusive surgical techniques (that were ineffective). Due to an unusual anomaly in the radiation produced by their star, the dominant fluid on the planet never developed a memory of its own, rendering normal homoeopathic principles surprisingly impotent. In addition, instead of using the Rect-o-matic 3053.1a used by most diagnostic technicians in the know, the inhabitants of that planet had limited means of determining what ailments were actually present in the patient.

Unfortunately, we do not know any more about the social life of these creatures and the other residents of that planet, all we have are the historical records from the primary contact crew. In addition to being technologically, artistically, and intellectually deficient, every organism found on that planet turned out to be addictively tasty. I would recommend the samples A, H, K, and V on menu 327-XJ-4 to start.
 
Pardon my lack of CT currency, but what is a Reptoid? Is it like V?

Kind of. If I remember correctly, the Reptoids are supposedly our alien masters and they either rule from within the Earth or outside of it.

I'd like to see SETI start picking up alien TV. People always talk about receiving a message designed for us or some kind of interstellar radio beacon, why not just stray signals from Alien TV stations?

Imagine all the boffins getting excited about finding a way to decode the signal only to find that they were looking at some Alien version of "I Love Lucy" or Monday night football...

Would people start getting sucked into Alien soap operas? Alien politics? Alien conspiracy theories?

So the signal is from a star a thousand lightyears away and all these little comedies and tragedies were played out a long time ago, people are still obsessed with this glimpse at another world, until one day the signal stops...


Pulp Mags here I come!!!

Once upon a time, in a galaxy far, far away, there was a small blue-green planet that had never been contacted by any civilized culture. Yes, I know it sounds unlikely, but somehow this uninspiring dot was missed by the Intelligence Agency (and if you had seen their intelligence rating, the omission may be more understandable).

Having never learned any of the rather obvious methods for gravity-shielding, the bipedal oddities that seemed to be the technological peak of development on that world plodded along drearily, chained to the crust of their odiferous planet. Only late in their development did they manage to take to the skies, albeit using methods that were comical at best, fatal at the worst.

Medical care required either topical treatments (that were ineffective), ingested treatments (that were ineffective), or intrusive surgical techniques (that were ineffective). Due to an unusual anomaly in the radiation produced by their star, the dominant fluid on the planet never developed a memory of its own, rendering normal homoeopathic principles surprisingly impotent. In addition, instead of using the Rect-o-matic 3053.1a used by most diagnostic technicians in the know, the inhabitants of that planet had limited means of determining what ailments were actually present in the patient.

Unfortunately, we do not know any more about the social life of these creatures and the other residents of that planet, all we have are the historical records from the primary contact crew. In addition to being technologically, artistically, and intellectually deficient, every organism found on that planet turned out to be addictively tasty. I would recommend the samples A, H, K, and V on menu 327-XJ-4 to start.

:jaw-dropp

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That was awesome, you two. Alien TV and homeopathy working everywhere else in the universe. And anal probes.
 
Invasion of the seven tentacled Chartered Accountants from Outer Space!

Aliens take over Earth's Insurance service industry, Shock! Horror!

Giant Spiders from Mars blamed for Sub-Prime Mortgage Crisis!
 
If aliens landed on earth there could be a plague such as when the Europeans came to America. I'd much prefer the radio signal.
 
OK, in my world, the aliens are superiorly intelligent life forms with technology advanced enough to get them here in the first place, and so they are also able, with a bit of investigating, to figure out where the astronomers, scientists, and people who might actually be able to have an intelligent conversation with them are located, and organize a discussion. In which case they might point out how ridiculous the stories are that they would bother to appear to people who wouldn't have a clue. Because they of course would have no language known to earth, fortunately they would have one of those convenient hand-held Star Trek language converters.

Having observed humans for long enough to figure out who best to talk to on the planet, they would have quickly decided to avoid any individual likely to use such New Age words such as "channeling," "ascension" or "ascended masters," or religious people who might mistake them for "demons" or "jinns," or phony psychics who are likely to write a book about them in order to make themselves appear special.

Unless they had any interest in staying, I doubt they'd need to contact a politician or the head of any government. They would avoid anyone potentially violent enough to try to forcefully extract technological information they were not prepared to share.

The would have lots of contempt for the little gray ones who usually only abduct people when they are asleep and always pick on otherwise very ordinary, hysterical, lonely or deluded people, or people who, if they researched a bit, would mistake them for a hallucinatory sleep experience, or the ones who have nothing better to do than cross lightyears through galaxies far, far away only to pick on poor cows.
 
So the signal is from a star a thousand lightyears away and all these little comedies and tragedies were played out a long time ago, people are still obsessed with this glimpse at another world, until one day the signal stops...
People of Earth!!

We demand McNeil!!

Actually, I think that if we could view an alien program, even without understanding a word of it, that would be fascinating. Just to see what aliens are like. And if they really are seven feet tall, with six breasts.
 
a tale from kedo1981

I’ll tell you, what this whole alien thing has really messed us all up and by all I mean all, the whole GD human race.
America, Europe, Asia, Arabs, Jews, Catholics, Protestants, Republicans and Democrats, it’s a combination slap in the face, a kick in the balls and a great big cosmic F U.

I mean damn; the stinkin space ship lands right in the middle of New York city in broad day light right in front of at least a 50 thousand people and untold numbers on tv smack dab in central park, right big as you please in the lawn.

Looked like a huge black manhole cover about as big around as the dome of the federal capital building, so smooth that you had to really stare at it to see it.
And you could see damage, a hole had been blow right through it, kind of out near the edge (and yet it didn’t really have edges) where you could see a kind of glow and some times bright blue sparks and if you looked just right, tilted your head and squinted a little you could make out a kind of bubble that incased the damaged area.

We were so excited at first, the whole planet just stopped in its collective tracks.
Of course the military had to butt the hell in and roped off the whole park, then President Obama and Vice President Swartzinegger had come down and show their asses. They acted all ceremonious and made speeches of greeting and peace and universal brother hood and you know what happened, nothing, the ship was dead silent, didn’t make a peep. Next came the Pope, the secretary of the United Nations, the King, the Duke, The Prince, movie stars, sports icons, and lots of strippers showing their boobs; nothing.
In fact no matter what we did it still ignored every attempt to communicate. At first it was thought the crew was dead, seeing as how it was damaged and maybe it killed them all. But after a month of it just setting there, those who kept an eye on it, began to see nearly invisible black shapes and when camera footage was reviewed frame by frame these shape could “almost” be seen, they had been moving out side the ship all along. They were in fact, just ignoring us.
I went down a few times to just look, got pretty close too, it was a about 3 months after it landed and some of the novelty and fear had worn off, it just sat there, black, silent, boring.
You could tell the damage was being repaired, it slowly got smaller everyday and then a slight hum could be heard/felt.
It sat there like a lump of black, blackness, for two hundred a five days, then on a Wednesday, at five minutes after ten AM the dang thing silently popped into the air, it didn’t lift off like you see in the movies, one second it was on the ground the next it was at least one hundred feet above it, (government had high speed video cameras trained on it and it was determined that it took about a hundredth of a second or some crap like that to lift off) then it froze for about 3 seconds, still dead silent, then popped up to several thousand feet and after that it wasn’t seen again.
The whole planet felt like the pimply fat kid with toilet paper stuck to his shoe at a frat party, what the heck was wrong with us, does our breath stink or something?
Most people just want to forget about, me, I’m pissed, who are they to ignore us anyway.


(Urgent report enclosed)

Order “Alpha Delta one” has been violated.
Ships commander of galactic fleet recon vessel had to set down on planet “Sol three” in order to prevent a catastrophic engine failure, and avoiding planet wide atmospheric destruction.
Ships commander begs to be forgiven for violating our most sacred law (non interference of the humans) and will gladly give up her command as a punishment.

New rules must be in acted to prevent incidents of this nature in the future.
You beings must agree that the safety and continued non interference of the humans is the most urgent of all our laws, we all know how important the progress and development of the human race is to the survival of the entire of galactic civilization.

(Report Ended)
 
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Actually, I think that if we could view an alien program, even without understanding a word of it, that would be fascinating. Just to see what aliens are like. And if they really are seven feet tall, with six breasts.


See, that's the real reason the aliens aren't talking to us. They know that after the first few minutes of polite conversation, all the male humans will be thinking about alien breasts.
 
All? Not so. Some will be thinking about the package, like with Spock's alleged forked johnson.
 

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