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MMR doctor Andrew Wakefield fixed data on autism

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THE doctor who sparked the scare over the safety of the MMR vaccine for children changed and misreported results in his research, creating the appearance of a possible link with autism, a Sunday Times investigation has found.
Confidential medical documents and interviews with witnesses have established that Andrew Wakefield manipulated patients’ data, which triggered fears that the MMR triple vaccine to protect against measles, mumps and rubella was linked to the condition.
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However, our investigation, confirmed by evidence presented to the General Medical Council (GMC), reveals that: In most of the 12 cases, the children’s ailments as described in The Lancet were different from their hospital and GP records. Although the research paper claimed that problems came on within days of the jab, in only one case did medical records suggest this was true, and in many of the cases medical concerns had been raised before the children were vaccinated. Hospital pathologists, looking for inflammatory bowel disease, reported in the majority of cases that the gut was normal. This was then reviewed and the Lancet paper showed them as abnormal.
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More here:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/life_and_style/health/article5683671.ece
 
Oh, this is JUST a smear campaign against the good doctor that speaks for parents, unlike all other doctors. Wakefield is a hero, and MMR causes autism. I'm not even gonna read it. *covers eyes*
/parent who loves Wakefield and won't get any vaccines for her kids
 
Hmph. Yeah, reading those posts at the Mothering link.. oy. It's all about conspiracies and cover ups. No clue on how vaccines work, since things like that are minor details and don't really matter. Vaccines are just teh poison and Wakefield is the guy who is the victim.

The whole thing with Wakefield was just a case study anyway, not a real study. It was a hypothesis that he had, which was supposed to show whether there should be additional larger studies done to look into it. The fact that everyone went crazy over it shows how much they were out to get someone who would even suggest such a thing as the MMR causing autism.
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Yeah um, cuz no other studies were done, ever, not even ones to try to replicate Wakefield's findings, nuh uhhhhhhhh.
 
Wow, this is huge. I just posted it over at my other forum--I can't wait to see the responses.
 
Okay, big news stories of the day. Wakefield lied. Uh huh. Check, whatever.

In OTHER more important news... vaccine maker admits that vaccines are just a huge public experiment on your kids and are basically useless and causing your kids harm. We should only give HPV vaccines to WOMEN 18+, and only after a bunch of women have shown no side effects for 10 years after getting the shot. Since they were only tested for 4 to 6 years, we can expect women to start dropping dead after the 10 year mark, expect all kinds of bad chit to happen cuz we didn't followup for 10 years. Basically, drug companies are using your kids as guinea pigs and killing them, we admit it because they weren't tested long enough.

Okay. Now guess which news story gets the most public and media attention?

Vaccines are nothing but BAD news, and even researchers, like Diane M. Harper, are letting us know now. Wakefield is OLD news.
" Thank you for putting this great information out there! I refused the vaccine for my daughter and my child's doctor was not happy about my decision. After reading this article I am so glad that I did not allow my daughter to become an experiment! Thank you!!! "
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http://www.kpcnews.com/articles/2007/03/14/online_features/hpv_vaccine/hpv01.txt
 
Eos of the Eons said:
Okay, big news stories of the day. Wakefield lied. Uh huh. Check, whatever.
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It is a big deal, if it's clear that Wakefield actively falsified data, as opposed to misunderstood or misrepresented data.

In OTHER more important news... vaccine maker admits that vaccines are just a huge public experiment on your kids and are basically useless and causing your kids harm.
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I wouldn't say a story from March 2007 is exactly news. Can you point to a more recent follow-up?
Actually, here's one.

Diane M. Harper said:
This is a good vaccine and it is generally safe.
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Her concern is not with the vaccine itself, but how it is being described, and administered.

Eos of the Eons said:
We should only give HPV vaccines to WOMEN 18+,
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That does seem to agree with her viewpoint.

and only after a bunch of women have shown no side effects for 10 years after getting the shot. Since they were only tested for 4 to 6 years, we can expect women to start dropping dead after the 10 year mark, expect all kinds of bad chit to happen cuz we didn't followup for 10 years.
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And how do you come to that conclusion from the article?
Vaccines are nothing but BAD news,
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Really? There was I thinking that smallpox was a bad thing.

and even researchers, like Diane M. Harper, are letting us know now.
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Well, 2 years ago.
 
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Eos of the Eons said:
Okay, big news stories of the day. Wakefield lied. Uh huh. Check, whatever.

In OTHER more important news... vaccine maker admits that vaccines are just a huge public experiment on your kids and are basically useless and causing your kids harm. We should only give HPV vaccines to WOMEN 18+, and only after a bunch of women have shown no side effects for 10 years after getting the shot. Since they were only tested for 4 to 6 years, we can expect women to start dropping dead after the 10 year mark, expect all kinds of bad chit to happen cuz we didn't followup for 10 years. Basically, drug companies are using your kids as guinea pigs and killing them, we admit it because they weren't tested long enough.

Okay. Now guess which news story gets the most public and media attention?

Vaccines are nothing but BAD news, and even researchers, like Diane M. Harper, are letting us know now. Wakefield is OLD news.


http://www.kpcnews.com/articles/2007/03/14/online_features/hpv_vaccine/hpv01.txt
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Wakefield's hearing with the GMC has been suspended til at least next month without a decision so his actions etc remain topical - er....whatever the issues your link is from March 2007.
Now that is OLD news .......
 
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The media will turn on Wakefield like the pack of dogs they are. They are the real villains of this sorry tale.
 
mummymonkey said:
The media will turn on Wakefield like the pack of dogs they are. They are the real villains of this sorry tale.
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They weren't a pack of dogs when they were hailing him as a Maverick for reporting that MMR causes autism?

If so, then I guess they should only print sensationalistic untruths?

Huh? Please say it ain't so...
And how do you come to that conclusion from the article?
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Not me. Just going on what others are saying. Well, actually they are saying girls are dropping dead now, that it doesn't take ten years, but we are being warned that things are gonna happen within 10 years too! Even though they didn't happen in five years, but just give it 10 years, cuz it wasn't followed up that long before giving it to the general public.

Really? There was I thinking that smallpox was a bad thing.
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Yeah, same here, but you should see what people are saying about smallpox vaccines too, and they are just as legit as what Harper is saying MIGHT happen now that our kids are just getting experimented on.

Her concern is not with the vaccine itself, but how it is being described, and administered.
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Oh yeah, and how is it better to just save it for 18 year olds? And why is she saying they aren't safe because they haven't been tested enough?
But Harper believes the safety tests for side effects should have been conducted for at least a decade and doses given to millions of individuals around the world before any mass vaccination began. She described the cervical cancer vaccination scheme in Scotland as an "experiment".
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http://scotlandonsunday.scotsman.com/cervicalcancer/Expert39s-fear-over-cervical-cancer.4652314.jp



And please note that I'm being half sarcastic, not directed at anyone here, since I'm finding all of this so darn ironic. Wakefield... he has his following, and now he can chum up with Harper. Either way, the antivaccinators are not going to ever believe in evidence. Wakefield had none, and Harper is only speculating, but the consequences are that public opinion is mostly with them if they were from the beginning of Wakefield's antics.

Harper may be old news as well, but their influences are seen in the low uptake of these vaccines in many places. It is just an uphill battle when dealing with the influence these experts have. Sometimes I'm puzzled by the backlash these vaccines have, until I see where people got the their information from. Then it's like "oh".
 
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zooterkin said:
It is a big deal, if it's clear that Wakefield actively falsified data, as opposed to misunderstood or misrepresented data.


I wouldn't say a story from March 2007 is exactly news. Can you point to a more recent follow-up?
Actually, here's one.


Her concern is not with the vaccine itself, but how it is being described, and administered.


That does seem to agree with her viewpoint.


And how do you come to that conclusion from the article?

Really? There was I thinking that smallpox was a bad thing.


Well, 2 years ago.
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I suspect EOS was being heavily sarcastic to try to rein in her extreme exasperation. ;)
 
Isn't it a Times exclusive investigation? That'll dampen the coverage that other publications give it.
 
tkingdoll said:
Isn't it a Times exclusive investigation? That'll dampen the coverage that other publications give it.
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It should be a big enough story for others to cover it. There seems to be very little so far. It's not as if there's copyright in facts.
 
Mojo said:
It should be a big enough story for others to cover it. There seems to be very little so far. It's not as if there's copyright in facts.
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Nothing to do with copyright, newspapers hate covering other paper's exclusives for many reasons including a) they don't have access to the source material so can't print any other angle except what they've read in the competitor and b) because in that case they're obliged to point out that their source is another newspaper and you plain old don't mention the competition unless it is owned by the same company as you.
 
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