Mike Gravel?

[Dustin Kesselberg]

I saw the democratic debate and I noticed that Mike Gravel was fairly impressive during the debate. He answered questions directly during and after the debate and I also learned that he supports other common sense issues including legalizing cannabis. The question is, What does everyone here think about him?

 

[Schneibster]

He's a nut-job. Kucinich only looked sane by comparison with him.

That said, I like the guy too. I just don't think he can get elected, and I seriously question his ability to get the bread sliced.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Why is he a nut-job? What do you mean "get the bread sliced"?

 

[Schneibster]

He's a nut-job because he espouses positions that make him unelectable, if he wasn't already because he hasn't held office in thirty years.

The administration does the business of the country. To run it, you have to understand not only what needs to be done, but how to get it done given the system we have in place to do it. That's "getting the bread sliced." If it doesn't happen, we have to tear it all off in hunks, and it's kinda hard to get the peanut butter to spread evenly on hunks, know what I mean?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

He's a nut-job because he espouses positions that make him unelectable, if he wasn't already because he hasn't held office in thirty years.

So having reasonable positions and telling the truth makes one a "Nut" in your opinion?

The administration does the business of the country. To run it, you have to understand not only what needs to be done, but how to get it done given the system we have in place to do it. That's "getting the bread sliced." If it doesn't happen, we have to tear it all off in hunks, and it's kinda hard to get the peanut butter to spread evenly on hunks, know what I mean?

No.

 

[Schneibster]

So having reasonable positions and telling the truth makes one a "Nut" in your opinion?

No, shooting your mouth off about positions that at least half the people in this country will consider excellent reason for voting for someone else, anyone else, when you're trying to get elected President, does. So, after what we've been through the last seven years, does considering someone who does so. Pick someone whse views you can live with, who is likely to get elected; your ideal candidate can't get elected. That you think that this guy and Kucinich are the best two candidates tells me everything I need to know.

No.

So, being President is about being President, right? There's no, you know, job, or anything, that one has to do; one just is President. Neato. People who think like you are why frat-boi got re-elected.

Listen, it's a job. How well it's done depends on the capabilities of who's doing it. Can we elect someone, please, who can actually do the job? Maybe it's just me.

 

[Pipirr]

Listen, it's a job. How well it's done depends on the capabilities of who's doing it. Can we elect someone, please, who can actually do the job? Maybe it's just me.

It's not just you.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

He was on last night's Colbert Report. In reference to the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, he argued that in Sparta they encouraged homosexuality and that's why they fought so well. He was actually pretty funny.

 

[Darth Rotor]

It's not just you.

The last guy who had a c.v. that was broad enough to be president was GHW Bush. This included an eight year apprenticeship as VP.

So, if Al Gore had been a businessman, and had been an Ambassador to a major power, he'd be the perfect candidate, with his time in the Congress considered a good sub for CIA director.

What he is, for better or worse, is a career politician.

DR

 

[Darth Rotor]

He was on last night's Colbert Report. In reference to the "don't ask, don't tell" policy, he argued that in Sparta they encouraged homosexuality and that's why they fought so well. He was actually pretty funny.

He appears not to have understood the difference between pederasty and homosexuality as currently practiced in the West. I'd also wonder at why he did not raise the matter of the Theban Sacred Banders.

DR

 

[Pipirr]

I think it's great to have Mike Gravel in the debates, and to hear his point of view. He's really spicing things up.

But I think if he was seriously running to win he'd sound much more like the other candidates. Legalising marijuana is not a platform associated with those elected to high office. Even if he did get to the White House, would anyone in the Congress or the Senate want to, or be able to, support that position?

He may be very capable, and he may have all the qualities needed to be a great President, but if legalising marijuana is the job that he wants to do, for example, I doubt he could get the job done.

 

[Darth Rotor]

The administration does the business of the country. To run it, you have to understand not only what needs to be done, but how to get it done given the system we have in place to do it. That's "getting the bread sliced." If it doesn't happen, we have to tear it all off in hunks, and it's kinda hard to get the peanut butter to spread evenly on hunks, know what I mean?

Nice post.

DR

 

[NeoRicen]

Why do people keep saying Kucinich is a nut job? I haven't been following the US election much at all outside of the main candidates (Obama, Clinton, McCain, Guiliani).

I saw his interview on Real Time with Bill Maher and he seemed pretty reasonable. His stance on war (or a lack thereof) probably won't get him elected but he hardly seems like a radical nut job.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

No, shooting your mouth off about positions that at least half the people in this country will consider excellent reason for voting for someone else, anyone else, when you're trying to get elected President, does. So, after what we've been through the last seven years, does considering someone who does so. Pick someone whse views you can live with, who is likely to get elected; your ideal candidate can't get elected. That you think that this guy and Kucinich are the best two candidates tells me everything I need to know.

So telling the truth even when people disagree makes you a nut?

So, being President is about being President, right? There's no, you know, job, or anything, that one has to do; one just is President. Neato. People who think like you are why frat-boi got re-elected.

You're not making any sense. The president has many duties.

Listen, it's a job. How well it's done depends on the capabilities of who's doing it. Can we elect someone, please, who can actually do the job? Maybe it's just me.

They all do the job. Bush is doing his job. He's just not doing it well. It seems like Mike Gravel would.

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

Why do people keep saying Kucinich is a nut job? I haven't been following the US election much at all outside of the main candidates (Obama, Clinton, McCain, Guiliani).

I saw his interview on Real Time with Bill Maher and he seemed pretty reasonable. His stance on war (or a lack thereof) probably won't get him elected but he hardly seems like a radical nut job.

He's not a nut job.

 

[Schneibster]

I'd also wonder at why he did not raise the matter of the Theban Sacred Banders.

DR

That was the first thing I thought of when I heard him say it.

 

[Schneibster]

So telling the truth even when people disagree makes you a nut?

No, saying stuff the majority of people who vote in the US disagree with violently enough that they won't vote for you, when you're trying to get elected President, makes you a nut.

You're not making any sense. The president has many duties.

I'm not making any sense??!!? Do you get that this guy has absolutely no qualifications for doing the job the President has to do other than he wants to? Or is that unimportant in your view? I'd have to conclude that's the case, since you're defending him so vociferously.

They all do the job. Bush is doing his job. He's just not doing it well. It seems like Mike Gravel would.

Why, because you think he's a neat guy?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

No, saying stuff the majority of people who vote in the US disagree with violently enough that they won't vote for you, when you're trying to get elected President, makes you a nut.

I disagree. I believe lying about what your stances are Just TO get elected makes you a nut.

I'm not making any sense??!!? Do you get that this guy has absolutely no qualifications for doing the job the President has to do other than he wants to? Or is that unimportant in your view? I'd have to conclude that's the case, since you're defending him so vociferously.

What qualifications? How do you measure "qualifications"? How do you figure Gravel doesn't have them?

Why, because you think he's a neat guy?

Because he's honest and intelligent.

 

[Schneibster]

I disagree. I believe lying about what your stances are Just TO get elected makes you a nut.

Dustin, you make my hair hurt.

What qualifications? How do you measure "qualifications"? How do you figure Gravel doesn't have them?

If you really wanted to argue about this, you'd have brought up his qualifications several posts ago. He doesn't have any.

Because he's honest and intelligent.

He's not very intelligent if he wants to get elected- and if he doesn't, why's he announcing he's a candidate? Hello?

 

[Dustin Kesselberg]

If you really wanted to argue about this, you'd have brought up his qualifications several posts ago. He doesn't have any.

You didn't answer my question.

He's not very intelligent if he wants to get elected- and if he doesn't, why's he announcing he's a candidate? Hello?

Perhaps he thinks a voice of reason should exist in the debates and in this race. Even if he won't get elected.