Michael Medved smacks down birfers

[UnrepentantSinner]

Yes. That Michael Medved. I disagree with him on almost everything, but he does a periodic "Conspiracy Friday" on his radio show. This week he dedicated to the birthers after that crazy woman in Delaware took over Rep. Mike Castle's town hall meeting two weeks ago.

On Freep she was hailed as a firecracker, though I'd use a different adjective.

Medved was interviewed for the NBC Nightly News, during which he noted his disappointment with his fellow Conservative talkers for not confronting the birfers or worse supporting them. That inspired him to raise the issue on "Conspiracy Friday" and he was absolutely brutal on them.

I actually don't feel dirty saying "kudos to you Mike Medved".

 

[Alt+F4]

You're right, the woman in that video is crazy. Members of Congress should start carrying around their short form version of their birth certificate and next time they meet a nut like this, take it out and see if they will challenge their citizenship.

Notice you don't see the insane birthers the slightest bit worried out the thousands of Americans who get passports each year based on short form birth certificates. Such hypocrites.

 

[Horatius]

Notice you don't see the insane birthers the slightest bit worried out the thousands of Americans who get passports each year based on short form birth certificates. Such hypocrites.

Actually, I've seen several claim you can't get a passport with the short form. So the reality denial just keeps getting deeper.

 

[Alt+F4]

Actually, I've seen several claim you can't get a passport with the short form. So the reality denial just keeps getting deeper.

They can claim all they want but I got my passport using a short from birth certificate (NYC) and it didn't even list the nationalities of my parents.

You would think these morons would try to get a passport using only a short form birth certificate, be rejected and have their "ah, ha!" moment.

 

[Lisa Simpson]

The State Department says some short form birth certificates may not be acceptable, but the site doesn't specify what makes a short form unacceptable.

*A certified birth certificate has a registrar's raised, embossed, impressed or multicolored seal, registrar's signature, and the date the certificate was filed with the registrar's office, which must be within 1 year of your birth. Please note, some short (abstract) versions of birth certificates may not be acceptable for passport purposes.

 

[LightinDarkness]

Oh for goodness sakes, what don't these woos get: The Hawaii government department that handles records went PAPERLESS. Thats right, there IS NO BIRTH CERTIFICATE - but not because there is some massive conspiracy and Obama was born in Kenya - but because its all electronic!

As someone who studies the bureaucracy I have to say that the birther stupidity has caused a lot of government departments who were planning to go paperless (on a variety of things, including birth certificates) to halt their plans. Birthers are stopping government systems from becoming more efficient and effective, which will end up costing us all dearly.

 

[twinstead]

I look at birthers, like truthers, moon hoax believers, etc, as more of a scathing indictment of ours and other nation's education systems.

 

[MG1962]

As someone who studies the bureaucracy I have to say that the birther stupidity has caused a lot of government departments who were planning to go paperless (on a variety of things, including birth certificates) to halt their plans. Birthers are stopping government systems from becoming more efficient and effective, which will end up costing us all dearly.

And that is a shame actually. Where I come from, they went paperless years ago. I needed to get a birth certificate from 47 years ago - 11 minutes it was in my hand. I thought that was outstanding

 

[MattusMaximus]

I just watched the full video... wow, just... wow. As soon as that woman started going on her rant, you could just see everyone on the stage wishing they were somewhere else.

And the fact that so many people in the audience cheered her on... wow

If this sort of thing keeps up, the GOP's going to have some real trouble on its hands.

 

[Elizabeth I]

I just watched the full video... wow, just... wow. As soon as that woman started going on her rant, you could just see everyone on the stage wishing they were somewhere else.

And the fact that so many people in the audience cheered her on... wow

If this sort of thing keeps up, the GOP's going to have some real trouble on its hands.

Never mind the GOP, the country is going to have some real trouble on its hands. I swear, it seems like stupidity is spreading exponentially.

 

[MattusMaximus]

Never mind the GOP, the country is going to have some real trouble on its hands. I swear, it seems like stupidity is spreading exponentially.

Well, yes the country is going to have trouble on its hands precisely because these whackjobs look as if they're attempting to take over one of the two major political parties in the United States. It's downright eerie...

 

[JoeyDonuts]

Suddenly being a registered independent isn't as "fringe" as it used to be.

Bring back the Bull Moose, I says!

 

[Brainster]

Ann Coulter is not one of my favorite people, but she's also not a Birther:



Note as well (from the link) that R. Emmet Tyrell of the American Spectator is similarly dismissive of the Birther crowd:

Well, ha-ha-ha. Back comes my disappointed booker after conveying the good news that we would be setting the record straight on the show shortly. Alas, the show’s producers did not want me to set the record straight. They had wanted me to defend the false story. But I reminded the booker that I knew the story to be false. In fact, I had provided the show with irrefutable proof that the story is false. Obama is American-born.

What does amaze me is that aside from long-time cranks like Lou Dobbs, I can't think of any major conservative figures who have endorsed this. A few mid-level conservative blogs are on the bandwagon, but most of the majors have laughed at the story. And yet the Birthers do have significant support in the rank and file.

 

[T.A.M.]

Ann Coulter is not one of my favorite people, but she's also not a Birther:



Note as well (from the link) that R. Emmet Tyrell of the American Spectator is similarly dismissive of the Birther crowd:



What does amaze me is that aside from long-time cranks like Lou Dobbs, I can't think of any major conservative figures who have endorsed this. A few mid-level conservative blogs are on the bandwagon, but most of the majors have laughed at the story. And yet the Birthers do have significant support in the rank and file.

Has Palin come out on this issue?

TAM

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Has Palin come out on this issue?

TAM

She affirms that Trig is hers, not Bristols.

 

[MattusMaximus]

What does amaze me is that aside from long-time cranks like Lou Dobbs, I can't think of any major conservative figures who have endorsed this. A few mid-level conservative blogs are on the bandwagon, but most of the majors have laughed at the story. And yet the Birthers do have significant support in the rank and file.

Rush Limbaugh has jumped on the birther bandwagon. I'd say he's a pretty major conservative player, not an intellectual conservative but a populist one. And he'll be influencing a lot of the GOP rank-and-file with this nonsense.

 

[dudalb]

I don't think Rush has jumped into the Birther pool yet, but he is testing the waters with his toe.

 

[T.A.M.]

I hope he takes up the "birther" cause. It will be another nail in the GOP coffin. How will the mainstream (is there such a beast) conservatives confront Boss Limbaugh on that one? Looks like some sparks will fly.

TAM

 

[SmartyPants]

Not that I would consider Liddy or Liz Cheney major conservative figures or intellectual heavyweights, but, for some reason, cable news shows continue to book them. Of course, that's probably more an indictment against 24 hour cable news. The fact that there are a few congressmen who can't give a straight "yes" or "no" answer to an easy question (Is Obama a natural-born citizen qualified to serve a President of the United States?) is a lot more troubling, though. However, my guess is that this will die a quiet death within a few months, and any otherwise reasonable conservative who has remained mum on the issue will eventually give the obvious "yes" answer when they realize that it is no longer something that's politically advantageous.

 

[Brainster]

Well, if I told you that one Congress Critter blocked a resolution on Hawaii's 50th anniversary of statehood because it contained an affirmation that Obama was born there, would you have any doubt which one?



What an embarrassment!