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Mexico sues US gun manufacturers over arms trafficking

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The Mexican government has sued some of the biggest US gun manufacturers, accusing them of fuelling bloodshed through reckless business practices.

The lawsuit alleges that the companies knew they were contributing to illegal arms trafficking, which has been linked to many deaths.

Officials say Mexico is seeking as much as $10bn (£7.2bn) in compensation, though any amount would be decided by the court.

Mexican officials said that some of the guns made by Colt appeared to target the Mexican market in particular, such as a pistol engraved with the face and name of Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata.

The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found that 70% of firearms recovered in Mexico between 2014 and 2018 which were submitted for tracing had come from the US.

In 2019 alone, more than 17,000 murders in Mexico were linked to trafficked weapons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58091071
 
Captain_Swoop said:
The Mexican government has sued some of the biggest US gun manufacturers, accusing them of fuelling bloodshed through reckless business practices.

The lawsuit alleges that the companies knew they were contributing to illegal arms trafficking, which has been linked to many deaths.

Officials say Mexico is seeking as much as $10bn (£7.2bn) in compensation, though any amount would be decided by the court.

Mexican officials said that some of the guns made by Colt appeared to target the Mexican market in particular, such as a pistol engraved with the face and name of Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata.

The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found that 70% of firearms recovered in Mexico between 2014 and 2018 which were submitted for tracing had come from the US.

In 2019 alone, more than 17,000 murders in Mexico were linked to trafficked weapons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58091071
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Probably a bit embarrassing that quite a few illegal guns can be sourced to Mexican police and military units too. US gun shops are not selling automatic weapons to be muled into Mexico, the good stuff gets stolen from the state.

I wonder how many of these US source guns were sold directly to the Mexican state before entering the black market.
 
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Maybe they should sue the US government for knowingly letting guns get trafficked.
 
There was a case of siezed guns in Texas being destroyed and later guns with the same serial numbers ending up in Mexico, but that was squashed years ago.
Where there is big money to be made the business can be slipped in, especially in Mexico.

Recently a few federal armories were raided and undisclosed numbers of military weapons taken too.
Guns are illegal to own, can't walk around with a pocket knife either.

But near everyone I know has a gun and as a gardener I carried a machete on me daily. In plain sight. A broom and rake too. So as a working man I could carry a really big knife but a 3'' folder in my pocket is illegal.

Cartels don't care. They get guns from anywhere and anybody. The Chinese stuff appears too but new, never seen before serial numbers. If someone knows whom or when they aren't talking. Big money breeds big crimes, it must be worth the risk.
 
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Captain_Swoop said:
The Mexican government has sued some of the biggest US gun manufacturers, accusing them of fuelling bloodshed through reckless business practices.

The lawsuit alleges that the companies knew they were contributing to illegal arms trafficking, which has been linked to many deaths.

Officials say Mexico is seeking as much as $10bn (£7.2bn) in compensation, though any amount would be decided by the court.

Mexican officials said that some of the guns made by Colt appeared to target the Mexican market in particular, such as a pistol engraved with the face and name of Mexican revolutionary leader Emiliano Zapata.

The US Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives found that 70% of firearms recovered in Mexico between 2014 and 2018 which were submitted for tracing had come from the US.

In 2019 alone, more than 17,000 murders in Mexico were linked to trafficked weapons.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-58091071
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Maybe gun manufacturers should sue Mexico for manufacturing too many Mexicans
 
If you have ever seen the worn out junk the local police here carry you would be amazed it isn't in a museum.
Old .38 revolvers, M1 carbines and bare steel 9mm things. Not many Glock or modern stuff. Bigger cities might be better. Recently a few old AR15 are seen but nothing with pretty new bluing finish.

The military gets issue weapons of far better quality and consistency. But the cartels get the good toys.

Which when taken become military weapons if the correct models.

This seems a bit off base from the start as it's a drug crime problem before a murder problem. If you guys up north didn't use drugs, then the bad guys here wouldn't make or sell them, and they wouldn't need all these guns to protect the illegal activity.

And fewer people would die on both sides.

But that's no solution as too many want to use drugs worldwide.
 
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8enotto said:
If you have ever seen the worn out junk the local police here carry you would be amazed it isn't in a museum.
Old .38 revolvers, M1 carbines and bare steel 9mm things. Not many Glock or modern stuff. Bigger cities might be better. Recently a few old AR15 are seen but nothing with pretty new bluing finish.

The military gets issue weapons of far better quality and consistency. But the cartels get the good toys.

Which when taken become military weapons if the correct models.

This seems a bit off base from the start as it's a drug crime problem before a murder problem. If you guys up north didn't use drugs, then the bad guys here wouldn't make or sell them, and they wouldn't need all these guns to protect the illegal activity.
And fewer people would die on both sides.

But that's no solution as too many want to use drugs worldwide.
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You give up too easily - sue the US for wanting drugs then use the money to pay the unemployed to build a wall to keep out the guns. Win Win Win.
 
Lplus said:
You give up too easily - sue the US for wanting drugs then use the money to pay the unemployed to build a wall to keep out the guns. Win Win Win.
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Yeah, it's that eternal disconnect between government, logic and sensible solutions.....

Walls won't solve anything as long as tunnels, holes, air traffic and all other travel methods still exist.

Just build a much smaller walled in area with all the idiot political figures inside? You can donate yours to the cause too.
 
If it serves no other purpose, the suit will highlight the movement of guns from the U.S. into Mexico.

In gun control discussions, I have often seen effort to regulate guns disparaged in part because the 2A advocates believe that many black market guns are just smuggled in from Mexico anyway.

In reality, guns flow the other way. Drugs come in to the U.S. from Mexico, money and guns go from the U.S. into Mexico.


Sadly, the wildly incompetent bungling of the Fast and Furious operation served to completely obfuscate the issue.
 
If only it were possible to get high directly from guns we could cut out all that south-of-the-border stuff entirely. Get to work on that, techies!
 
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