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McCain's ties to Gambling

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I am Shocked! Shocked! to learn about John McCain's ties to gambling interests! :faint:

September 28, 2008
McCain and Team Have Many Ties to Gambling Industry
By JO BECKER and DON VAN NATTA Jr.
Senator John McCain was on a roll. In a room reserved for high-stakes gamblers at the Foxwoods Resort Casino in Connecticut, he tossed $100 chips around a hot craps table. When the marathon session ended around 2:30 a.m., the Arizona senator and his entourage emerged with thousands of dollars in winnings.

A lifelong gambler, Mr. McCain takes risks, both on and off the craps table. He was throwing dice that night not long after his failed 2000 presidential bid, in which he was skewered by the Republican Party’s evangelical base, opponents of gambling. Mr. McCain was betting at a casino he oversaw as a member of the Senate Indian Affairs Committee, and he was doing so with the lobbyist who represents that casino, according to three associates of Mr. McCain.

The visit had been arranged by the lobbyist, Scott Reed, who works for the Mashantucket Pequot, a tribe that has contributed heavily to Mr. McCain’s campaigns and built Foxwoods into the world’s second-largest casino. Joining them was Rick Davis, Mr. McCain’s current campaign manager. Their night of good fortune epitomized not just Mr. McCain’s affection for gambling, but also the close relationship he has built with the gambling industry and its lobbyists during his 25-year career in Congress.

As a two-time chairman of the Indian Affairs Committee, Mr. McCain has done more than any other member of Congress to shape the laws governing America’s casinos, helping to transform the once-sleepy Indian gambling business into a $26-billion-a-year behemoth with 423 casinos across the country. He has won praise as a champion of economic development and self-governance on reservations.

Do we really want a "lifelong gambler" who "takes risks, both on and off the craps table" making important decisions about the direction of the country and especially about starting new wars with perhaps Iran and Russia?
 
Since half the high profile skeptics of the world work for casinos, ixnay on the asinocays.
 
Do we really want a "lifelong gambler" who "takes risks, both on and off the craps table" making important decisions about the direction of the country and especially about starting new wars with perhaps Iran and Russia?
He can afford to lose a few thousand bucks, so he isn't really taking risks. Maybe he did at some point, but so what? I would be much more concerned about the fact that you have to be deeply religious to succeed in politics in the USA. Do you really want a religious nut at the top?
 
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Sounds like McCain has done more for the American Indian than Obama.

He (McCain) has won praise as a champion of economic development and self-governance on reservations.

Nice. What has Obama done for the American Indian? I'm just sayin'.
 
I bet McCain even once played poker with his buddies! Illegally! Is this what we want in the White House? An illegal gambling addict with takes risks????
 
I bet McCain even once played poker with his buddies! Illegally! Is this what we want in the White House? An illegal gambling addict with takes risks????

Actually, high level (key words) poker players generally have a great sense of when to take a risk and when not to. Not that they always get it right, of course. That'd be fine by me in the white house, though.

(If you were being sarcastic, I'm sorry!)
 
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Do we really want a "lifelong gambler" who "takes risks, both on and off the craps table" making important decisions about the direction of the country and especially about starting new wars with perhaps Iran and Russia?

Why not?

I'm not voting for McCain, but the fact that some rich guy throws around his money isn't going to influence me one way or the other.
 
Well, that's a bit of a leap.
Is it? I think his love of craps is consistent with other examples of his erratic temperament. Craps is a game of pure chance, with all bets given a house advantage, so if you play as often as McCain does, you will lose. It's a sucker's game, luring people in with it's high risk/high reward excitement. Other games played against the house are (at least theoretically) beatable, like Blackjack. And poker games played not against the house but against other players (as Obama prefers) are truly beatable.

McCain has rolled the dice at least a couple times this campaign, with huge stakes on the line. And he has all but admitted that his stunt last week was a big gamble: "Well, I am a betting man":


I don't want a guy in the Oval Office who thinks it's a good idea to gamble on losing games.
 
Sounds like McCain has done more for the American Indian than Obama.



Nice. What has Obama done for the American Indian? I'm just sayin'.

lmao. Randi should have an award for best Eddie Izzard-like funny comments. I'm actually serious.

If anyone gives McCain crap about going into a casino, he should respond with something akin to your first statement.

I might vote for him if he responded with a statement like that.

*still laughing*
 
IMO the world is made up of people with all kinds of 'ailments'; people who make all kinds of mistakes; people who do weird things after hours.

There is no possible way to weed through all of the things about all of the people in political play. There is no possible way to assuredly determine who will do what and why, and if it were the absolute best option...

Personally, Palin's church affiliations bother me more than McCain tossing a few bucks around the dice table. That may be his stress relief time. Who knows. I don't see a big compulsion regarding his gambling. I don't think McCain is worshipping the dice gods. Palin has compulsion/obsession with her tongue speaking god, on the otherhand.

Personally, Obama's wife bothers me. I watched her on CSpan a couple of times, long before Obama was considered in contention. She was in power lunches with big, affluent women. She was militant and bigoted and loud mouthed. She was full of anger and finger pointing blame all over the place. Obama's affiliation with that idiot preacher bothers me. When I couple that with what I know about his wife, I cringe. I cringe more so than considering McCain is a dope throwing away money on the dice.

Btw, I don't care for either Obama or McCain.

I view things now by considering what I think this country presently needs. Then I try to figure out who is the most apt or inclined to facilitate meeting those needs the best way possible. Usually I base this decision process by viewing how the person (in this case, McCain/Obama) has voted a/o acted in situations surrounding decision making, policy, etc.

In the business world, I've seen some real kooky bastards running things. More often than others or as compared to nonkooky bastards :), these kooky bastards do a great job at making the business run smoothly while being profitable. They know that there are goals both personally and professionally. They know that they are hired and paid to meet the goals set out. They do so, regardless of their kookiness, personal belief systems, etc. I try to view the presidential runners similarly. Their respective kookiness inclinations are usually irrelevant to me, albeit not always and to various degrees if importance.

McCain tossing some cash around a dice table or a poker table, is not on my list of reasons why I don't want to vote for the man.
 
Sounds like McCain has done more for the American Indian than Obama.



Nice. What has Obama done for the American Indian? I'm just sayin'.

You're not "just sayin'" much of anything. In fact, I'm rather surprised that anyone would be "just sain'" anything so positively insipid. I sincerely hope you were joking.

Let's review some basic facts here:

John McCain is a senator from the state of Arizona. Please take a look at this map and note how many Indian reservations there are in Arizona.

Barak Obama is a senator from, and previously a state senator of, the state of Illinois. Please again take a look at the above map and note how many Indian reservations there are in the state of Illinois.


Your post, which again I hope you made in jest, is the equivalent of asking what John McCain has ever done for the Great Lakes shipping industry.
 
Actually, high level (key words) poker players generally have a great sense of when to take a risk and when not to. Not that they always get it right, of course. That'd be fine by me in the white house, though.

(If you were being sarcastic, I'm sorry!)

Yes, I was. No, you're not :p
 
When I worked for Harrah's/Caesar's, I performed some work at our Harrah's Ak Chin casino south of Phoenix in Maricopa. Tribal gaming in Arizona has overall been a win for the tribes.
 
Is it? I think his love of craps is consistent with other examples of his erratic temperament. Craps is a game of pure chance, with all bets given a house advantage, so if you play as often as McCain does, you will lose. It's a sucker's game, luring people in with it's high risk/high reward excitement. Other games played against the house are (at least theoretically) beatable, like Blackjack. And poker games played not against the house but against other players (as Obama prefers) are truly beatable.

McCain has rolled the dice at least a couple times this campaign, with huge stakes on the line. And he has all but admitted that his stunt last week was a big gamble: "Well, I am a betting man":


I don't want a guy in the Oval Office who thinks it's a good idea to gamble on losing games.


That is just about the stupidest.most badly reasoned thing I have seen yet in this sad election year.
Saying because somebody like to shoot craps he is unfit for the Presidency is really,really, really, stupid.
 
Is it? I think his love of craps is consistent with other examples of his erratic temperament. Craps is a game of pure chance, with all bets given a house advantage, so if you play as often as McCain does, you will lose. It's a sucker's game, luring people in with it's high risk/high reward excitement. Other games played against the house are (at least theoretically) beatable, like Blackjack. And poker games played not against the house but against other players (as Obama prefers) are truly beatable.

McCain has rolled the dice at least a couple times this campaign, with huge stakes on the line. And he has all but admitted that his stunt last week was a big gamble: "Well, I am a betting man":


I don't want a guy in the Oval Office who thinks it's a good idea to gamble on losing games.

Yeah, it's still a leap.
 

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