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McCain rally in FL gets ugly

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MattusMaximus

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I just read this on FiveThirtyEight.com about a rally McCain held today in Florida. Apparently, as the rally ended a large group of McCain supporters damn near attacked two guys holding Obama signs on the street. Police had to be called in to handle the situation.

McCain Miami Rally, Getting Ugly Down Here


... After the rally, we witnessed a near-street riot involving the exiting McCain crowd and two Cuban-American Obama supporters. Tony Garcia, 63, and Raul Sorando, 31, were suddenly surrounded by an angry mob. There is a moment in a crowd when something goes from mere yelling to a feeling of danger, and that's what we witnessed. As photographers and police raced to the scene, the crowd elevated from stable to fast-moving scrum, and the two men were surrounded on all sides as we raced to the circle.

The event maybe lasted a minute, two at the most, before police competently managed to hustle the two away from the scene and out of the danger zone. Only FiveThirtyEight tracked the two men down for comment, a quarter mile down the street.

"People were screaming 'Terrorist!' 'Communist!' 'Socialist!'" Sorando said when we caught up with him. "I had a guy tell me he was gonna kill me." ...
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Wonderful. Just wonderful. Yet more evidence that the GOP base is starting to crack up and lose it.
 
MattusMaximus said:
I just read this on FiveThirtyEight.com about a rally McCain held today in Florida. Apparently, as the rally ended a large group of McCain supporters damn near attacked two guys holding Obama signs on the street. Police had to be called in to handle the situation.

McCain Miami Rally, Getting Ugly Down Here


Wonderful. Just wonderful. Yet more evidence that the GOP base is starting to crack up and lose it.
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That's the base that Palin has been playing too since the day after her nomination, and it would appear that's what she stands for.

Yet we see people still sucking down the bongwater about 'islamist' and 'terrorist', and so on.
 
I wonder how this will play in the Cuban-American community once the word gets out? They are a critical voting bloc in Florida, and Obama's been making inroads with them. Something like this could tip many undecided Cuban-Americans to Obama, ultimately resulting in him picking up the state.

Now, how ironic would that be?
 
They were wrong for tying to get into the rally. However, they did not deserve to be attacked for simply holding signs and chanting "Obama" across the street.
 
Saying that these people shouldn't have been at the rally is silly. They had as much right to be there as the McCain supporters.


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Because, apparently, their attire is all you need to know to determine if they were just supporters of the other candidate, or thugs looking for a fight.
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They were both wearing jeans and they may even have been wearing tank tops under their t-shirts.

Clearly these Obama supporters are commie-nazi thugs. The worst kind of commie-nazis.
 
If they were not on the grounds of the venue, but standing on a public sidewalk, the protestors were totally legal, as long as they did not confront or try to intimidate the McCainiacs.

If they were on the grounds of the venue, they would be tresspassing.

If the protestors offered violence to anyone, they would be committing a criminal act.

If the McCainiacs had to leave the grounds of the venue to surround and intimidate and threaten the protestors, they were committing assault. In that case, they should have been hauled off in handcuffs.
 
MattusMaximus said:
I wonder how this will play in the Cuban-American community once the word gets out? They are a critical voting bloc in Florida, and Obama's been making inroads with them. Something like this could tip many undecided Cuban-Americans to Obama, ultimately resulting in him picking up the state.

Now, how ironic would that be?
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Based on the highly informal poll of "my family who gathered to celebrate three birthdays last week" I am the only Cuban-American who plans to vote for Obama. :p The accusation that Obama is a SOCIALIST! has them all in a tizzy.

I think I've said something like this before, but there's a strong generation gap between older Cubans who have a very anti-Democrat, anti-Castro view that permeates all political issues and younger Cuban-Americans who are have more diverse ambitions than going to Cuba for cigars and parties when Castro's communism has been destroyed by Republican hardline rhetoric which will of course involve using a time machine to restore Cuba to just what it was before the revolution - a magical tropical paradise where los campesinos were happy and the expatriates were rich, fat, and had hot and cold running servants.

I fear that more older Cuban-Americans will think these particular men were traitors to the cause than victims of rabble rousing.
 
leftysergeant said:
If they were not on the grounds of the venue, but standing on a public sidewalk, the protestors were totally legal, as long as they did not confront or try to intimidate the McCainiacs.

If they were on the grounds of the venue, they would be tresspassing.

If the protestors offered violence to anyone, they would be committing a criminal act.

If the McCainiacs had to leave the grounds of the venue to surround and intimidate and threaten the protestors, they were committing assault. In that case, they should have been hauled off in handcuffs.
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Spot on, Lefty. They were clearly not on the grounds of the venue nor attempting to gain entrance, nor attempting to intimidate nor assault anyone, except perhaps by their lack of sartorial style :D There is no way that these two could be accused of "hooliganism", therefore the response of Miami-Dade's Finest to sequester and extricate them from the conflict.

It speaks volumes concerning Obama's call to dignity, versus McCain's call to fervency.
 
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