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McCain Promises to Balance the Budget

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McCain promises to balance budget

July 7, 2008 05:38 AM EST

Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) plans to promise on Monday that he will balance the federal budget by the end of his first term by curbing wasteful spending and overhauling entitlement programs, including Social Security, his advisers told Politico.

The vow to take on Social Security puts McCain in a political danger zone that thwarted President Bush after he named it the top domestic priority of his second term.

McCain is making the pledge at the beginning of a week when both presidential candidates plan to devote their events to the economy, the top issue in poll after poll as voters struggle to keep their jobs and fill their gas tanks.

“In the long-term, the only way to keep the budget balanced is successful reform of the large spending pressures in Social Security, Medicare, and Medicaid,” the McCain campaign says in a policy paper to be released Monday.

“The McCain administration would reserve all savings from victory in the Iraq and Afghanistan operations in the fight against Islamic extremists for reducing the deficit. Since all their costs were financed with deficit spending, all their savings must go to deficit reduction.”

The pledge is a return to an earlier position he'd later backed away from. On April 15, McCain backed off a February pledge to balance the budget in his first term when asked about it by Michael Cooper of The New York Times, who reported that McCain said “at a news conference … that ‘economic conditions are reversed’ and that he would have a balanced budget within eight years.”

McCain advisers admit that the document is a repackaging of previous policies, without dramatic new initiatives. Some Democratic officials had thought McCain might try to make a splash by proposing a bold middle-class tax cut.

Jason Furman, Obama's economic policy director, called McCain's pledge “preposterous." Furman pointed out that the Congressional Budget Office now estimates a 2013 deficit of $443 billion, assuming the Bush tax cuts are extended. And he estimated that McCain would have to cut discretionary spending—including defense—by roughly one-third to bring the budget into the black by then.

"McCain would have to pay for all of his new tax cuts and other proposals and then, on top of that, cut an additional $443 billion from the budget—which is 81 percent of Medicare spending or 78 percent of all discretionary spending outside of defense," Furman said.

Is this promise credible? At least he is naming specific programs to be cut: Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid. I give him points for boldness. He is of course assuming that everything in the economy and the wars in Iraq and Afganistan go perfectly as well.
 
Social Security pays for itself. It can only help balance the budget if you cut benefits and then use the extra money to pay offset the deficit.
 
How long before the Obama team roll out the old faithful "republicans are trying to kill off Social Security" scare campaign? Three.... two ......

Obama's has already proposed his revolutionary soak the rich b*stards Social Security "solution".

Change like we can believe, know what I mean.
 
I am rather skeptical. I don't think he should have made this commitment. If you look at the budget he would have to cut a lot of programs.

I mean, at least he specified some things instead of the typical "wasteful spending". But the things he specified are just going to get him compared to Bush. And why did he bring up SS? There is already the whole issue of him saying he would support privatization and then saying he doesn't and never did. It didn't get as much media attention, but this could open the door for it.
 
How long before the Obama team roll out the old faithful "republicans are trying to kill off Social Security" scare campaign? Three.... two ......

Obama's has already proposed his revolutionary soak the rich b*stards Social Security "solution".

Change like we can believe, know what I mean.

I stand in awe of your ability to attack Obama in a thread about McCain.
 
If I thought he was actually going to do this, I'd vote for him.

If he lays out a plan to do this before election day, and gets congress to go along with it (not a message or a few soundbites, but an actual plan), I still will.
 
One of the rumors I've heard about McCain is that he might be considering Fred Smith (CEO of Fedex) as secretary of defense. I could foresee a new round of military cost reductions under a Fred Smith military. Defense is after all a large budget item.

This isn't just rumor since McCain has confirmed he might be a choice and Smith has said he would accept if asked.
 
He's going to balance the budget by cutting taxes. (More specifically, he will keep Bush's tax cuts in place, instead of letting them expire.) Well that worked great the first time. Let's do that again. :rolleyes:
 
How long before the Obama team roll out the old faithful "republicans are trying to kill off Social Security" scare campaign? Three.... two ......

Obama's has already proposed his revolutionary soak the rich b*stards Social Security "solution".

Change like we can believe, know what I mean.

If Obama says that McCain is going to cut (not "kill off") Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, that would be an accurate description of what McCain says he wants to do, right?

"Scare tactic" or not, it's true. The republicans are not shy about using "scare tactics" either, BTW. I'll ask my retired parents what they think of this and let you know. I wonder what the AARP thinks about it. :D
 
If Obama says that McCain is going to cut (not "kill off") Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, that would be an accurate description of what McCain says he wants to do, right?

I'd say it's still a bit deceptively vague... is he going to cut the actual budgets for those programs, or is he going to lower the growth percentage of those budgets? If I recall correctly, that frequently is a point of contention with debates over budget "cuts" -- they aren't cuts in the actual budget, they're cuts in the projected growth %.

I agree, both sides use scare tactics, so nothing unique to Obama here (if he says that), but for accuracy's sake...
 
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Sure he and Phil Gramm can do that. Wendy Gramm used to work in ENRON. McCain sure has good advisors. Phil and Wendy Gramm.
 
I'd say it's still a bit deceptively vague... is he going to cut the actual budgets for those programs, or is he going to lower the growth percentage of those budgets? If I recall correctly, that frequently is a point of contention with debates over budget "cuts" -- they aren't cuts in the actual budget, they're cuts in the projected growth %.

I agree, both sides use scare tactics, so nothing unique to Obama here (if he says that), but for accuracy's sake...

Even freezing them at their current level (not a cut in nominal dollars, but a cut in real dollars if there's any inflation) seems unlikely to add up to $443 billion. Plus, McCain is proposing new tax cuts. If he's serious about balancing the budget by 2013, I think he means actual cuts, not cuts in the rate of growth.
 
If Obama says that McCain is going to cut (not "kill off") Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid, that would be an accurate description of what McCain says he wants to do, right?

"Scare tactic" or not, it's true. The republicans are not shy about using "scare tactics" either, BTW. I'll ask my retired parents what they think of this and let you know. I wonder what the AARP thinks about it. :D

I imagine any cuts to those programs would be targeted at those not yet getting payouts from them.
 
Even freezing them at their current level (not a cut in nominal dollars, but a cut in real dollars if there's any inflation) seems unlikely to add up to $443 billion. Plus, McCain is proposing new tax cuts. If he's serious about balancing the budget by 2013, I think he means actual cuts, not cuts in the rate of growth.

I guess we'll have to wait and see, but I'd be very surprised if he actually cut the budget from its current level. Bush appears to be already proposing a growth cut. According to this article from February of this year, cutting the annual growth of Medicare/Medicaid from 7% to 5% will save about $200 billion over 5 years.

From McCain's website, he says he will:
Control Medicare Growth: The growth of spending on Medicare threatens our fiscal future. John McCain has proposed comprehensive health care reforms that will reduce the growth in Medicare spending, protect seniors against rising Medicare premium payments, and preserve the advancements in medical science central to providing quality care.

I agree, by the way, that it seems unlikely he will be able to actually balance the budget while still maintaining tax cuts and two costly wars, not to mention opposition from a Democratic Congress... but I don't think he will actually cut Medicare/Medicaid from their current levels. And even if he proposed it, it would be DOA in Congress.
 
Actually it would be extremely easy if he just sticks to his "no earmarks" pledge which would cut 90% of HUD and the DoE and all DoA subsidies and ... ;)
 
I imagine any cuts to those programs would be targeted at those not yet getting payouts from them.

So today's young people will have to pay for a level of Social Security benefits to today's retirees that they themselves will not enjoy in the future when they retire. But maybe this is medicine we have to take as a society with people living longer. I'm in favor of slowly raising the retirement age if necessary to reflect longevity increases.

If you offered me another life and asked me when I'd like to be born, I'd still take a later date over an earlier one, as living standards do seem to improve with time.
 

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