Lucianarchy and the infamous 'Ladybrook' prediction

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I know, I know, the topic that refuses to die.

I bring it up because Lucianarchy is still going on about it in other forums:
Lucianarchy on Mental-List forumsEdited to add: You need to register to view the mental-List forum, but it's free and quick
I challenge any mentalist here to replicate the 'ladybrook' effect.
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(dear God he's calling it an 'effect' now...)

When asked to explain this he describes it thusly:
Provide the location of a terrorist attack a few hours before the event takes place.
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Hmm... slightly misrepresents what actually happened but never mind.

What actually happened:
A bus was hijacked at the Ladybrooke bus terminus and driven through the Ladybrooke estate. The bus (with a bomb on) was then left outside Woodbourne Police Station (not in Ladybrooke at all).
(So in terms of the prediction the terrorist attack didn't take place at all in Ladybrooke.)
The bomb was blown up in a controlled explosion.
No-one was hurt.

Lucianarchy's prediction about this event in full:
ladybrook
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One random word at the end of an unrelated post.

Now my theory about this whole sorry mess:

Lucianarchy has worked (and may still work) at the British Home Office, so it is not unreasonable to assume he still knows people there.
It is perfectly possible that he was given information about a terorist event underway at that moment.
He posts a word immediately.
He later claims a great story about his prediction (and apparently will continue to do so for ever).

Now what is interesting is firstly that he misspelt Ladybrooke (he omitted the 'e') as if it was a name he had merely heard, not seen.
Secondly why is the name Luci predicted 'Ladybrooke' and not 'Woodbourne' where the attack actually took place?
Perhaps because the information Luci received was at the start of the event when it was still in the Ladybrooke area. He wasn't to know it would leave the area.

There - a perfectly plausible method by which this prediction couls have been done. His challenge to the mentalist to recreate this is a little unfair unless they
a) Have contacts in the Home office or similar access to current security information
b) A lack of scruples to employ this knowledge to prove a minor point

Has Luci ever been able to replicate this 'amazing' event? No.





Now, let me compare my predictive abilities:

I made this prediction to Lucianarchy a mere three months ago:
Water
It's tragic to note how relevant this has become, and if I were Luci no doubt I'd be jumping all over the internet with this.

In this thread I guess someone's lockbox combination from a possible 10,000 options. At the first try.
Guess the combination

Finally there is the time I predicted Osama's return on the 29th October, mere hours before he appeared on the news:
Osama's newsflash predicted
Described by Mighty Thor as:
This is probably the best premonition ever reported and logged on this board.
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So who has the greater hit rate, me or Luci?

I can explain Ladybrook.
I wonder if he could explain my hits?
 
That topic does not exist.

(nor does the effect, appropriately enough)


Edit: it might be because I'm not registered. Dunno why it doesn't just say that, though.
 
The only report that I have EVER been able to find on this event was a BBC report.
Disidents Blamed for Bus Bomb

According to that report the bus did not start or end its journey at Ladybrooke, the gunmen did not board the bus at Ladybrooke.

All the report claims is that:
They ordered the driver to take it through the nearby Ladybrooke estate
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See my sig for evidence of my abilities.

What is more is that I have a 100% hit rate, that being the only prediction I have ever made:)
 
Couple of points:

1. I lived for 12 years in a house facing Woodbourne police station. I know it and the surrounding area extremely well.

2. Ladybrook(e) is spelt both ways locally but more usually without the 'e'.

3. Ladybrook is NOT on the Stewartstown road where the bus was hijacked. It is a small housing estate situated between 2 main roads that run perpendicular to the Stewartstown road. It lies about a mile from the Stewartstown Road.

4. The BBC site is confusing. You simply do not go through Ladybrook to get to Woodbourne. I imagine what they mean is that the bus was FROM Ladybrook bus terminus.

5. Woodbourne station is one of the most bombed police stations in the world. While I lived there (during the 80's and early 90's) there was scarcely a week without some sort of incident. On one occasion it was nearly destroyed by mortar fire. This incident is VERY minor and the same thing has happened MANY times in the past.

6. Lucianarchy is talking complete cobblers.
 
Excellent, some local information.

And Luci's 'hit' becomes even more nonsensical (if we even thought that were possible).

Thanks Oleron.
 
It should also be pointed out that there were issues with the Forum clock at the time. Estimates were that the story could have already been on the radio for hours before the post was ever made, and the clock problem made it appear as if the post was made much earlier.
 
Ashles -- Now my theory about this whole sorry mess:

Lucianarchy has worked (and may still work) at the British Home Office, so it is not unreasonable to assume he still knows people there.
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So, was all the DJ stuff a red herring?
 
Lucianarchy's on every forum out there, even in the imaginary ones, including William Gibson's Pattern Recognition.
 
CFLarsen said:
I posted a rebuttal of Lucianarchy's fake claims of paranormal feats on www.mental-list.com.

It's been removed.
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Well, it's not a debunking site, if this quote from the site's first page is anything to go by...

"This site is not geared to exposure of any kind and respects the beliefs of those who believe in the paranormal."

I'm inclined to put this under the "Life's too short" category.

And since I'm too lazy to register, can anyone tell me what the other posters reactions are?
 
I'm not surprised the thread's been chucked, as it was completely unrelated to the board's purpose. Which is what made Luci's post so funny; he appeared to completely miss the fact that mentalists (i.e. the posters at that board) are people who use deceptive conjuring techniques to simulate psychic abilities... or in simpler (if less accurate) terms, magicians who speclialize in fake mind-reading*. He referred to his Ladybrook prediction as an act of mentalism, apparently unaware than in so doing, he was essentially calling himself a big ol' phony.


*It should be noted that most mentalists would slap me for saying that, as they tend to dislike "regular" magicians and try to distance themselves from them as much as possible. Explaining why would take too long, but suffice it to say that if you had invested your time, energy, money and ego into pretending to be psychic, you might be touchy about it too.
 
A quick search shows no matches for "Ladybrook", "Ladybrooke" or Lucianarchy as content keywords.

There is no user named Lucianarchy either as far as I can tell.
 
He got a couple of warnings for having a go at the JREF and also for challenging people to replicate the Ladybrook 'prediction'.

The administrator told him to stop both of these activities, and appears now to have deleted all the related threads and banned Luci.
 
I think atarian meant on the Mental-List forums where Lucianarchy no longer appears.
 
atarian said:
Bingo!
Should have made myself clearer.
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What's even more funnier is that I thought you really were a "New Member", but I see "new" in your case is to be taken in the way that language is a relatively new invention.
 
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