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Loren Coleman and CareerBuilder

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In today's classified section of the Sunday paper, CareerBuilder ran a half page story featuring cryptologist Loren Coleman. The title was "Dream Job? Here's one: searching for Bigfoot." (sorry no link to the story)

Did this run in any other paper? Granted, woo in the news is nothing new. I just wasn't prepared to see it on the front of the classifieds.
 
Try again...

"Dream Job? Here's one: writing about Bigfoot."

Coleman doesn't search for Bigfoot. He writes about those who do.
 
Well now, in all fairness, he claims to have searched for weird critters in many if not most states in the union. Then again, so have I, but the weirdest critter I've yet come across is this guy:

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I've read only one of his books and that was 15 years ago. The his "evidence" in the article was a bit retrofitted. Coleman was quoted saying he discovered the "Dover Demon."

“So I investigated the area, with no media contamination, and found a creature that was about 4 feet tall with spindly fingers and feet, a figure-eight shaped head, with no mouth and skin that looked like shark skin. The reason this is my favorite [case study] is I know it happened, and I could see there was no contamination [of evidence]”
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If I remember correctly, all he discovered 3 hysterical teenagers who saw a 'possum with a skin disease.
 
tube said:
Well now, in all fairness, he claims to have searched for weird critters in many if not most states in the union. Then again, so have I, but the weirdest critter I've yet come across is this guy:

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The 'possum on the half shell or the guy with the shorts? :D j/k
 
tube said:
Well now, in all fairness, he claims to have searched for weird critters in many if not most states in the union. Then again, so have I, but the weirdest critter I've yet come across is this guy:
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I agree that that is a weird guy in that pic. Are you trying to indicate that, "His soul went that-a-way." ?

But tube, it doesn't matter much if Coleman has searched for weird critters or not. The article seems to be about careers (income). Has Coleman ever earned income from his searches (as Matt Moneymaker does)?
 
tube said:
Well now, in all fairness, he claims to have searched for weird critters in many if not most states in the union. Then again, so have I, but the weirdest critter I've yet come across is this guy:

[qimg]http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/matthetube/post-44-1130132788.jpg[/qimg]
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Reply: aren't you Ben Radford?

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I wonder how many minutes it'll take Coleman to see this thread. The best part is he can't edit or delete unfavourable comments like he does at his own site or tries to do at wikipedia. He makes a concerted effort to paint himself as a more prominent figure than he really is.

Take a look at the talk page for his entry in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Loren_Coleman

Coleman:
Yes, I do sometimes go into my bio entry to update or correct it with info, as I notice vandals do hit.
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Wikipedia editor Paul Ballard:

Hi Loren. Yes, commenting on the Talk page is exactly the correct way to go. Editing your own article is discouraged except the most basic of facts - see the Wikipedia:Autobiography guideline. It looks like you've violated that guideline in the past, but never mind, the past can't be changed.
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I love the 'world's greatest living cryptozoologist' bit.
 
kitakaze said:
I wonder how many minutes it'll take Coleman to see this thread. The best part is he can't edit or delete unfavourable comments like he does at his own site or tries to do at wikipedia. He makes a concerted effort to paint himself as a more prominent figure than he really is.

Take a look at the talk page for his entry in wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Loren_Coleman
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Oh, it gets even "better." Check out the talk page for the Mothman Wikipedia entry (bolding by me):

I have removed the following book plug. It was posted by someone with Coleman's exact IP address. This person has changed many pages all over wikipedia, inserting pro-Coleman claims and putting Coleman into the bios of famous figures. All references lead back to Coleman's own work. This can be proven by checking Coleman's address on posts to yahoo lists like mothmanlives. It wouldn't be so bad if Coleman inserted his own research in a halfway objective way, but he repeatedly removes modifiers that other people have placed on his assertions. For example, Coleman takes out the word "claims" in any sentence containing "Loren claims," in an apparent effort to make his opinion seem like gospel. Check the Jan. 2 and 3 edits to the analysis section of Mothman, follow up on that IP address, and you will find Coleman inserting himself into the history of recently deceased figures like Robert Anton Wilson. This seems to explain Coleman's obsession with obituaries
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Deciding to see whether or not this was true, I did a little digging through the history of edits on the Mothman page. I was unable to find the specific edits mentioned above, but I did find edits by an anonymous user that often inserted references to Mr. Coleman into Wikipedia articles.

After going to the Robert Anton Wilson page, I found this quote:

Wilson also supported many of the utopian theories of Buckminster Fuller and the theories of Charles Fort (he was a friend of Loren Coleman),
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However, I was unable to find due to the sheer volume of edits on that page. Checking the entry on Charles Fort revealed comments added by another anonymous user who mostly did Coleman-specific edits.

This page notes two other anonymous user IPs that insert references to Loren Coleman into articles. I checked them both out and found that this was the case. I also found that one of them was often used to remove references to Jerry Coleman from articles.

To be fair, I should note that the IP addresses referred to do not match up to the IP address contained in an e-mail sent to me by Mr. Coleman. It would be interesting to see if any of them match up to the IP address on the Yahoo lists mentioned in the Mothman talk page, though.

And on a somewhat related note, here's a hilarious take on the Memorial Day film.
 
Isn't Loren Coleman the guy who faked some prints in Illinois or Indiana, and got totally busted on it? How does he get away with that? I can see if you get busted faking prints, and you are an engineer, or an accountant, but how do you get busted faking prints, and your job is selling the idea that there are real cryptoanimals out there?
 
Got a link to this, Drew?

I mean, this is serious, since he seems to be one of the main promoters of bigfeet and things related. I must confess, however, that I am really not aware of his actual status at the footer community.
 
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Correa Neto said:
Got a link to this, Drew?

I mean, this is serious, since he seems to be one of the main promoters of bigfeet and things related. I must confess, however, that I am really not aware of his actual status at the footer community.
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http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/nape.htm

He admits it was probably a hoax pulled on him, but you wouldn't know that from the Bigfoot encounters link above

http://www.cryptomundo.com/cryptozoo-news/henry-may/ said:
What people mostly like to discuss are the "Nape" tracks I found in Illinois in 1962, but even those prints could have been a hoaxed pulled on me, although I remain skeptical of such claims. But I need to be open to the reality or lack thereof in all events, and understand the psychological behind some people’s trickster streaks.
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Duuude... That cast... Whoah!!!

Well, at least it has an opposing toe...
 
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tube said:
Well now, in all fairness, he claims to have searched for weird critters in many if not most states in the union. Then again, so have I, but the weirdest critter I've yet come across is this guy:

[qimg]http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m96/matthetube/post-44-1130132788.jpg[/qimg]
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Did you find that in Washington? It may be considered weird there, but around Austin Armadillos are pretty common. :)
 
Drewbot said:
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/nape.htm

He admits it was probably a hoax pulled on him, but you wouldn't know that from the Bigfoot encounters link above
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If I'm reading that quote right, he's saying that he's skeptical that the tracks are hoaxed, but is open to all possibilities (in other words, he's trying to make it seem as if he's reasonable and open-minded instead of a believer).

It's implied here that Jerry Coleman thinks that his brother Loren hoaxed the tracks. However, the Wikipedia entry on Jerry Coleman says that "one of his friends" did it. Not having access to a copy of Strange Highways, I can't say for sure which version is correct.
 
http://www.bigfootencounters.com/images/nape.htm said:
I am convinced this cast should be filed under hoaxes, - - the big toe appears to be a thumb print....
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If it said, this story, or these prints should be considered a hoax, then I would see it as Loren getting duped, but if the CASTS themselves are hoaxes, and LC made the Casts, then it implies the caster to be the hoaxer.
 
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