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Haha oh, man. Thanks for correcting my error. I did mean to say griddle and not girdle. Today is one of those lazy sundays. But doesn't iron steel melt at 2500-2750 degrees F?

I can't believe you don't know where W. was at the time of the attacks unless you were joking that is.

Here is a full length of W.'s visit to Booker Elementary School on the morning of sept 11. He just sat there with his poker face after being told that America was under attack...

whatreallyhappened.com/bushbook.mov

But it was Marvin Bush, W.'s younger brother, who was in NYC at the time of the sept 11 attacks. He was a principal for a company called Securarcom that provided security for:
--the WTC, in which buildings 1, 2 and 7 that came down what suspiciously looked like a controlled demolition
--United Airlines which two of the company's planes that were hijacked.
--Dulles Airport in DC where one of the planes that took off from Dulles crashed into the Pentagon

Good article explaining further, which is a minor smoking gun...
anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj05.html

Power shut down at WTC for 30 straight hours in the weekend prior to sept 11...
69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html

WOW, lots of coindicences and those listed above were only a minor set....
 
geggy said:
Haha oh, man. Thanks for correcting my error. I did mean to say griddle and not girdle. Today is one of those lazy sundays. But doesn't iron steel melt at 2500-2750 degrees F?

I can't believe you don't know where W. was at the time of the attacks unless you were joking that is.

Here is a full length of W.'s visit to Booker Elementary School on the morning of sept 11. He just sat there with his poker face after being told that America was under attack...

whatreallyhappened.com/bushbook.mov

But it was Marvin Bush, W.'s younger brother, who was in NYC at the time of the sept 11 attacks. He was a principal for a company called Securarcom that provided security for:
--the WTC, in which buildings 1, 2 and 7 that came down what suspiciously looked like a controlled demolition
--United Airlines which two of the company's planes that were hijacked.
--Dulles Airport in DC where one of the planes that took off from Dulles crashed into the Pentagon

Good article explaining further, which is a minor smoking gun...
anderson.ath.cx:8000/911/hj05.html

Power shut down at WTC for 30 straight hours in the weekend prior to sept 11...
69.28.73.17/thornarticles/powerdown.html

WOW, lots of coindicences and those listed above were only a minor set....
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I would love to see how someone can rig three skyscrapers for demolition in 30 straight hours especially without anyone knowing. Do you honestly believe with the powerdowns that there was no power whatsoever in the building??? no backup generators?? if there were powerdowns, how did the
Demo teams see what they were doing, flashlight?? candlelight??
there were banks in those buildings, im sure their security was perfectly happy with 30 hours of no video surveilance so that anyone could just rob them.

please while you're at it, point me to a video of a controlled demolition that was done from the top down!!!! jeez. if this was a controlled demolition the building would have fallen as one piece, not the top half falling through the stationary bottom half. if you want to know how a controlled demolition works go to howstuffworks.com and do a search for Controlled demolition. thats the easiest way to explain it.
 
* yawn *

the WTC's DO NOT LOOK ANYTHING LIKE A FRIGGIN CONTROLLED DEMOLITION. Cheezus Crust, f*** me sideways!!!!!!
If you think its controlled. Never drive a car. Do not even ride a bike. Your a friggin hazard.
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh man. Ok.

When will you guys stop using the SAME arguements. Controlled demolition? LOOKS LIKE one??? WHAT????????????? You cannot be serious. The debree is spread out all over the place. Where is any control in this??? Get off the grass mate.

United Airlines I believe is a fairly large company. Whats the chances you will get a flight on one soon? Whats the chances of getting on a flight on an airline that has someone high up in the chain of command involved in politics.
Man if you look hard enough you'll find a link to Donald Trump probably. Hey john Howard spent a few days with Bush immediately after the event. He must be in on it too!

Im presuming the power shut down is to infer the globalists secret agents ran in, rigged up thousands of explosives in 3 buildings - two of them being the 5th and 6th largest in the world at the time.
Might I suggest this article however, be warned, it contains simple explanations of expertise in the field of demolitions which may force you to confront such acronyms like 'Occams Razor' or even *GASP* force you to listen to experts in the field. Note the building after the demoliton.

A better one is this one which can be scary when it has the nerve to suggest a controlled demolition is based around imploding something! Whoever did the WTC job was pretty sloppy in regards to this. Be careful its also delving into that nasty area - science and facts. These can be foreign to some. It also shows the effort that goes to it, the time, the skill, the knowledge. I can understand if you skip over it though. Its pretty annoying having people, *ahem* sorry - experts, actually explain away your accusations! Science is a horrible thing - its based on facts. Pesky damn facts!

You know your theory would be better if you stopped saying it was controlled. Controlled. Man.

Is it me, or do these blokes just drop in, one at a time, get shot down, then the next bloke steps up and tries the same stuff. Man its like religion bashers at the door when you give em 5 minutes of your time because your being polite. They are back in a few days trying again.
 
hellaeon said:
Is it me, or do these blokes just drop in, one at a time, get shot down, then the next bloke steps up and tries the same stuff. Man its like religion bashers at the door when you give em 5 minutes of your time because your being polite. They are back in a few days trying again.
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They all pretty much post the same stuff. They must each stumble on the loose change site (or equivilent), and them come here. They never have any new or unique arguements. They never address the official evidence directly. They just parrot the standard 911 CT crap.

Yes, then when they get tired of hearing about evidence, they leave.
 
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geggy said:
I recall seeing videos of a woman standing in the impact hole of one of the WTC buildings waving frantically for help. What struck me as odd was that she had a head full of hair.

When you turn on a stove at high temperature, pluck a hair from your head and place it on the steel girdle. The hair vaporizes, yet the steel girdle does not melt.
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I've seen that video, and for the life of me I don't recall the woman's hair resting on a steel griddle, or anything else made of steel. That's the necessary condition for your analogy to have any relevance, since steel conducts heat much better than air does.
 
Yes, power went out for 30 hours straight during a weekend prior to sept 11. DURING A WEEKEND PRIOR TO SEPT 11. NOT WEEKS, MONTHS, YEAR, BUT ONE WEEKEND BEFOREHAND. [Slaps]Don't be stupid.[/slaps]

From what I've learnt, the longest ordeal in the plannings of any building implosion projects is studying the blueprints of the building and checkpoint where the explosives should be placed in order to make it fall the way they want it to fall. They'd create models of the buildings using specific programs in the computer to decide where the best spots are for placing explosives. 30 hours sounds like a reasonable time for placing explosives inside three buildings depending how many people were involved.

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If you're really "really interested," please go back and read this thread.
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Oh. So you do know how controlled demolition works, yet you don't think WTC buidlings were brought down with explosives, not even a slightest bit of suspicions crossing your mind? Heh, that's crazy...or just denial.
 
geggy said:
From what I've learnt, the longest ordeal in the plannings of any building implosion projects is studying the blueprints of the building and checkpoint where the explosives should be placed in order to make it fall the way they want it to fall. They'd create models of the buildings using specific programs in the computer to decide where the best spots are for placing explosives. 30 hours sounds like a reasonable time for placing explosives inside three buildings depending how many people were involved.
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You'd better do a bit more studying.

They also gut the building before wiring it for explosives. Why didn't anyone working there notice this?

"Hey, what happened to my desk? And where are all the walls? Oh, well, I'm sure it's nothing."


Oh. So you do know how controlled demolition works, yet you don't think WTC buidlings were brought down with explosives, not even a slightest bit of suspicions crossing your mind? Heh, that's crazy...or just denial.
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Have you tried Prozac? Paxil is good, too.
 
geggy said:
Yes, power went out for 30 hours straight during a weekend prior to sept 11. DURING A WEEKEND PRIOR TO SEPT 11. NOT WEEKS, MONTHS, YEAR, BUT ONE WEEKEND BEFOREHAND. [Slaps]Don't be stupid.[/slaps]
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You are quite arrogant little child. There happens to be the little detail that this power outage happened in only in WTC2. You might have noticed that that both buildings went down.

Edit to add: Oh incidently, the only accountting of this 'power-down' only has one person saying it took place.

http://www.911myths.com/html/wtc_power_down.html

30 hours sounds like a reasonable time for placing explosives inside three buildings depending how many people were involved.
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So a bunch of folks drive vehicles loaded with explosives, make their way past security and bomb sniffing dogs, make their way into one of the largest buildings in the World, and plant explosives hey willy-nilly, in not only WTC2, but also WTC1 (which is not powered down)? They work solid for 30 hours, nobody notices? ANd they manage to leave no scars of their work of hiding explosives?

You apparently don't know anything about demolition.
 
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kookbreaker said:
So a bunch of folks drive vehicles loaded with explosives, make their way past security and bomb sniffing dogs, make their way into one of the largest buildings in the World, and plant explosives hey willy-nilly, in not only WTC2, but also WTC1 (which is not powered down)? They work solid for 30 hours, nobody notices? ANd they manage to leave no scars of their work of hiding explosives?

You apparently don't know anything about demolition.
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Bomb sniffing dogs were removed, I think, two weeks prior to sept 11. Look it up. There are many possible ways to bring in the equipments. Like loading up the van and driving into the basement/parking lot of the WTC one by one several times in a week and hiding the equipments in the private section of the building. There are so many different possible ways.

I remember reading bunch of sources in the public press reports relating to the numerous evacuations and power shut downs before the attack to place. I will gather them and post as soon as I find them.
 
geggy said:
Bomb sniffing dogs were removed, I think, two weeks prior to sept 11. Look it up. There are many possible ways to bring in the equipments. Like loading up the van and driving into the basement/parking lot of the WTC one by one several times in a week and hiding the equipments in the private section of the building. There are so many different possible ways.
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I think the burden of proof is on you, so you look it up, and give us the link to it.

I remember reading bunch of sources in the public press reports relating to the numerous evacuations and power shut downs before the attack to place. I will gather them and post as soon as I find them.
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I look forward to reading them. Hopefully, they don't all lead back to the same source.
 
geggy said:
Bomb sniffing dogs were removed, I think, two weeks prior to sept 11. Look it up.
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And yet one of the dogs died on site. The bomb-sniffing dog removal is another CT myth. The dogs that were removed were ones that were added during a brief hightening of security.

There are many possible ways to bring in the equipments. Like loading up the van and driving into the basement/parking lot of the WTC one by one several times in a week and hiding the equipments in the private section of the building. There are so many different possible ways.
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So you have to:

1) Get the explosives into the parking lot...where there is security to prevent another '93 bombing.
2) Carry the explosives to a 'private place' without anyone noticing.
3) Keep them hidden in this 'private place' for an indeterminate amount of time and hoping the explosives to not deteriorate.
4) Place the explosives during a blackout that likely did not happen, place them so that nobody notices them despite the massive amount of manual work destructive work that real demoltion projects require so that the explosives will be in place.
5) Manage to do all this placement without power tools, or limited use of them, an 18 Volt Drill driver battery isn't going to cut it.
6) Hide all the explosives and work so that nobody notices when the blackout lifts.

Yeah, right.

I remember reading bunch of sources in the public press reports relating to the numerous evacuations and power shut downs before the attack to place. I will gather them and post as soon as I find them.
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Mmmmm-hmmmm.
 
kookbreaker said:
And yet one of the dogs died on site. The bomb-sniffing dog removal is another CT myth. The dogs that were removed were ones that were added during a brief hightening of security.



So you have to:

1) Get the explosives into the parking lot...where there is security to prevent another '93 bombing.
2) Carry the explosives to a 'private place' without anyone noticing.
3) Keep them hidden in this 'private place' for an indeterminate amount of time and hoping the explosives to not deteriorate.
4) Place the explosives during a blackout that likely did not happen, place them so that nobody notices them despite the massive amount of manual work destructive work that real demoltion projects require so that the explosives will be in place.
5) Manage to do all this placement without power tools, or limited use of them, an 18 Volt Drill driver battery isn't going to cut it.
6) Hide all the explosives and work so that nobody notices when the blackout lifts.
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Don't forget that the actual support structure of the WTC towers is on the outside, this was done to increase floor space available. Not only would people probably notice it on the inside, but might on the outside as well.
 
geggy said:
Oh. So you do know how controlled demolition works, yet you don't think WTC buidlings were brought down with explosives, not even a slightest bit of suspicions crossing your mind? Heh, that's crazy...or just denial.
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No. Again, go read the documents I posted, then read this WHOLE thread. This was NOT CONTROLLED. When in history has a 'controlled' demolition featured so much debree scattered over such a wide area - outside of the 'controlled demolition zone' ? Go back to your x-files.
 
geggy said:
But it was Marvin Bush, W.'s younger brother, who was in NYC at the time of the sept 11 attacks. He was a principal for a company called Securarcom that provided security for:
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I don't really know where Marvin Bush was on 9/11, but I am sure that he was no longer on Securacom's board. That ended more than a year before the attacks.

You see what's going on here? You have a whole bunch of little lies, which you're attempting to show that they paint the big picture of conspiracy. How many lies do you have to add together for them to tell the truth?
 
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CptColumbo said:
Don't forget that the actual support structure of the WTC towers is on the outside, this was done to increase floor space available.
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I believe that the major weight-bearing supports in the towers were the columns in the buildings' centers. The beams on the outside provided stiffness against the wind, plus anchor points for the floors so that they didn't have to have a mesh of columns in the work areas.
 
hellaeon said:
...Is it me, or do these blokes just drop in, one at a time, get shot down, then the next bloke steps up and tries the same stuff. Man its like religion bashers at the door when you give em 5 minutes of your time because your being polite. They are back in a few days trying again.
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It's not just you.

I'm beginning to think there's a bunch out there who are having their fun coming here and making the skeptics dance.
 
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