Lieberman to Defense?

[hgc]

Yes, that's my prediction. Probably wrong, but I'll put it out there.

I think that Cheney planned all along to put Lieberman in the job as soon as possible after he was re-elected, so that they could flip his seat Republican. I also think that Lieberman was in on it.

 

[hgc]

Oh, he's already got someone else. Nevermind; silly thread.

 

[Darth Rotor]

Yes, that's my prediction. Probably wrong, but I'll put it out there.

I think that Cheney planned all along to put Lieberman in the job as soon as possible after he was re-elected, so that they could flip his seat Republican. I also think that Lieberman was in on it.

Pres of Texas A & M is apparently the selectee. Former CIA director.

DR

 

[headscratcher4]

I agree...just said the same thing on another thread...the reason is that it gets the GOP the Senate back if Tester and Webb's leads hold. Bush appoints Lieberman, a GOP governor of Conn. appoints a GOP Senator...gets the Senate back to either 50/50 (Cheney as tie breaker) or 51/49.

 

[hgc]

I agree...just said the same thing on another thread...the reason is that it gets the GOP the Senate back if Tester and Webb's leads hold. Bush appoints Lieberman, a GOP governor of Conn. appoints a GOP Senator...gets the Senate back to either 50/50 (Cheney as tie breaker) or 51/49.

I don't see why they wouldn't have nominated Lieberman directly whenever they were ready, rather than do something interim with Gates, then. Rummy is already well past his expire date. They could have waited until January.

 

[BPSCG]

Nevermind; silly thread.

'Sokay, we understand; it's not like it's your first one.

Not even your first one this week.

In fact, don't you hold the record?

 

[Jocko]

'Sokay, we understand; it's not like it's your first one.

Not even your first one this week.

In fact, don't you hold the record?

Not his fault. He was drunk and playing with firearms at the time. It's true!

 

[Tricky]

If you want to turn this thread serious, perhaps we should ask what Lieberman is going to do about his party affiliation now. Will he immediately "switch" to the Democratic party? I'm betting it's tempting to switch to the GOP just to thumb his nose at the Dems in Connecticut who ousted him in the primary. Not sensible though, because he wouldn't have a single Democrat friend left. It seems to me though that being an independent is the route to the least possible power.

 

[hgc]

OK, settle down now. They Cheney drinkin-and-shootin thread is a very important discussion of public policy. I wonder if they've buried the vic's body yet.

 

[hgc]

If you want to turn this thread serious, perhaps we should ask what Lieberman is going to do about his party affiliation now. Will he immediately "switch" to the Democratic party? I'm betting it's tempting to switch to the GOP just to thumb his nose at the Dems in Connecticut who ousted him in the primary. Not sensible though, because he wouldn't have a single Democrat friend left. It seems to me though that being an independent is the route to the least possible power.

He's said all along that he remains a Democrat, even though he wasn't allowed to be listed that way on the ballot. That's how he does the most damage -- the cancer within the party.

 

[BPSCG]

If you want to turn this thread serious,

Too late...

perhaps we should ask what Lieberman is going to do about his party affiliation now. Will he immediately "switch" to the Democratic party? I'm betting it's tempting to switch to the GOP just to thumb his nose at the Dems in Connecticut who ousted him in the primary. Not sensible though, because he wouldn't have a single Democrat friend left. It seems to me though that being an independent is the route to the least possible power.

You can be sure Pelosi and Reid and Howard Dean are right now fixing Lieberman up with all the fine wine, Cuban cigars, and expensive hookers any unreasonable man could ask for.

 

[headscratcher4]

Too late...
You can be sure Pelosi and Reid and Howard Dean are right now fixing Lieberman up with enough fine wine, Cuban cigars, and expensive hookers an unreasonable man could ask for.

Under-age pages too?

 

[Jocko]

It seems to me though that being an independent is the route to the least possible power.

In a virtually dead-even Senate? Are you friggin' serious? Both sides will be lining up to kiss his @$$ on every close vote, which will be a hell of a lot of them. Being an independent gets him the clout of BOTH parties.

 

[Tricky]

In a virtually dead-even Senate? Are you friggin' serious? Both sides will be lining up to kiss his @$$ on every close vote, which will be a hell of a lot of them. Being an independent gets him the clout of BOTH parties.

As I understand it, lots and lots of votes don't go down strict party lines, so @$$-kissing goes on everwhere all the time. But powerful committee memberships are often determined by the parties, especially the party in power.

 

[Jocko]

As I understand it, lots and lots of votes don't go down strict party lines, so @$$-kissing goes on everwhere all the time. But powerful committee memberships are often determined by the parties, especially the party in power.

So you expect which party would reward Lieberman with a membership, again? Would that be the one that threw him to the wolves, or the one Lieberman loudly declares he'll have no part of?

 

[hgc]

So you expect which party would reward Lieberman with a membership, again? Would that be the one that threw him to the wolves, or the one Lieberman loudly declares he'll have no part of?

Seems to me they did not throw him to the wolves. Throwing him to the wolves would have been if Obama and Reid and Bill and Hillary would have been stumping for Lamont up and down Connecticut. Instead, Bill visited just once, early on and then Lamont was ignored by the national party. This must have been a calculation on their part that Lieberman would win, and they didn't want to totally alienate him. Nevermind that he spent the campaign totally alienating Democrats by saying things like gee, I don't even know if it would be better that the Democrats win Congress - hadn't thought about it.

 

[Tricky]

Seems to me they did not throw him to the wolves. Throwing him to the wolves would have been if Obama and Reid and Bill and Hillary would have been stumping for Lamont up and down Connecticut. Instead, Bill visited just once, early on and then Lamont was ignored by the national party.

And didn't Bill stump for Joe in the primaries? Didn't almost all national Dems come out in favor of Lieberman back then? After the primary, they couldn't come out and actively campaign against the Democratic nominee, but they sure didn't do much to help Lamont.

Those in Connecticut voting in the Democratic primary threw him to the wolves, but ya know, lots of people vote in the primary that is not their normal party of preference. I do it all the time. There might have been a fair number of Republicans voting for Lamont in the primary, hoping for an easier target.

But, Joke-o, I did mention your position earlier when I said:

I'm betting it's tempting to switch to the GOP just to thumb his nose at the Dems in Connecticut who ousted him in the primary.

Tempting, perhaps, but it would be stupid.