Liability concerns discourage thorough investigation into 9/11

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In 1992 Pan Am was found liable for damages in the 1988 explosion of flight 103 over Lockerbie because of security failures.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E0CE7D61631F932A25754C0A964958260

Pan Am Is Held Liable by Jury In '88 Explosion
A jury decided yesterday that Pan American World Airways was liable for damages because its security procedures failed to protect passengers in the 1988 explosion of Flight 103 over Lockerbie, Scotland, a bombing that took 270 lives.


Initially on 9/11 there were some reports that the hijackers had bombs or at least claimed to. There was also a report that one person was shot by a hijacker on one of the planes. This all gave way to the common theory that the hijackers had box cutters. This presented a problem for the airlines though being that box cutters were also illegal to carry onto an airplane. The box cutter was later changed to a “short-bladed knife” that conveniently fell within the 4 inch permitted limit.

What's Wrong With Transportation Security?
Aug 1, 2006 12:00 PM, By Michael Fickes
http://govtsecurity.com/mag/whats_wrong_transportation/

GS: So why weren't the box-cutters taken from the hijackers?

Johnstone: This is where it gets murky. The 9/11 Commission didn't believe the hijackers used box-cutters. That is the term that a few people on the hijacked planes used to describe the weapons when calling relatives on cell phones.The Commission believed that the hijackers carried knives with blades shorter than four inches. The checkpoint operations guide expressly permitted short-bladed knives to be carried onto the plane. That's what the Commission believed the hijackers used — short- bladed knives.


In October of 2005 a Manhattan Jury found the Port Authority of NY/NJ 68 % at fault for the 93 bombing of the WTC while only finding the terrorists 32% at fault.

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/10/27/nyregion/27wtc.html

A Manhattan jury said yesterday that the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey was negligent in safeguarding the World Trade Center before the first terror attack on the twin towers, the 1993 bombing that killed six people and injured 1,000.


On 9/11 there were reports of explosions at the WTC and even an expert opinion of secondary devices in the building…

http://globalresistance.com/news/albu.htm

Explosives Planted In Towers,
New Mexico Tech Expert Says
[Posted 14 September 2001]
By Olivier Uyttebrouck
Journal Staff Writer

"My opinion is, based on the videotapes, that after the airplanes hit the World Trade Center there were some explosive devices inside the buildings that caused the towers to collapse," Romero said.

"One of the things terrorist events are noted for is a diversionary attack and secondary device," Romero said.

Romero is a former director of the Energetic Materials Research and Testing Center at Tech, which studies explosive materials and the effects of explosions on buildings, aircraft and other structures.
"It would be difficult for something from the plane to trigger an event like that," Romero said in a phone interview from Washington, D.C.


Romero had a complete reversal of this opinion through a news story and later offered this to Popular Mechanic…

“I was misquoted in saying that I thought it was explosives that brought down the building. I only said that that's what it looked like” (Popular Mechanics, 2005).


In May of 2002 Romero was given an appointment by George W Bush…

http://www.whitehouse.gov/news/releases/2002/05/20020530-2.html

The President intends to appoint three individuals to serve as Members of the President's Advisory Commission on Educational Excellence for Hispanic Americans. The Commission is charged with charting a multi-year plan to close the educational achievement gap for Hispanic Americans.
Fernando Caldeiro of Texas
Van Dedric Romero of New Mexico
Juan Secada of Florida
 
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I can't believe you're trotting out Romero, that is so 2002.
 
This is nothing new with Zen, as far as I recall...he has been trotting out Romero since I have started debating him on youtube.
 
So Zen, are you saying that someone should be held liable for not protecting the airspace around the upper floors of the Towers, and preventing these hijacks?

I can understand directing some liability to the airport security that allowed the hijacks to occur, but your post doesn't make clear what you feel we should be discussing here.
 
So Zen, are you saying that someone should be held liable for not protecting the airspace around the upper floors of the Towers, and preventing these hijacks?

Umm no. Read it again.

I can understand directing some liability to the airport security that allowed the hijacks to occur, but your post doesn't make clear what you feel we should be discussing here.

If any secondary devices of any kind like initially reported got near the towers like terrorist are known to follow up with the Port Authority would have been held liable for security failures.
 
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If any secondary devices of any kind like initially reported got near the towers like terrorist are known to follow up with the Port Authority would have been held liable for security failures.

First you have to PROVE that there were secondary devices in the WTC.
 
First you have to PROVE that there were secondary devices in the WTC.
No first you need to investigate, listen, and include to all the witness testimony and evidence, not just the things that leave the least amount of accountability and liability.
 
Your whole movement is full of ifs, maybes, could haves, might haves, looked like, etc etc.

Maybe after over 6 years of truthy investigating your crack researchers could come up with something more substantial? Maybe you could find one of the thousands of people who must have been in it to come forward? Or better yet, face reality and accept that 9/11 happened pretty much the way the 9/11 Report and the NIST said it did.
 
When did Romero investigate the collapses? Or did he just make an off-hand comment to a reporter after seeing the video a day or 2 after 9/11?
That's a good point. How did his first impression change so much without any time to do any real additional investigation?
 
Your whole movement is full of ifs, maybes, could haves, might haves, looked like, etc etc.

Maybe after over 6 years of truthy investigating your crack researchers could come up with something more substantial? Maybe you could find one of the thousands of people who must have been in it to come forward? Or better yet, face reality and accept that 9/11 happened pretty much the way the 9/11 Report and the NIST said it did.
When's that NIST final report on WTC7 coming out skippy? LOL
 
When's that NIST final report on WTC7 coming out skippy? LOL
Imagine that, a group of professionals who take their time in order to make a comprehensive, accurate report! I can see why this is very confusing to someone in the bowel truth movement.
 
I can't believe you're trotting out Romero, that is so 2002.

Are you insane? "Night of the Living Dead" not only fathered a sub-genre, but also spawned several memes that transcend language and are instantly understood the world over.
 
Yes they are ok being that there was no investigation into the accounts of secondary explosions.

I think they are ok because they aren't liable for allowing anyone to plant bombs that didn't exist.
 

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