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Let's Invade Iraq!

Mark

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I mentioned this on another thread, but thought it really deserves one of its own. When no WMDs were found in Iraq, the Right's mantra then became 'We invaded Iraq because Hussein was killing his own people."

Well, now that the U.S. installed government is killing its own people I guess we had better...um...well...invade them...?

OF ALL THE bloodshed in Iraq, none may be more disturbing than the campaign of torture and murder being conducted by U.S.-trained government police forces. Reports last week in the Los Angeles Times and New York Times chronicled how Iraqi Interior Ministry commando and police units have been infiltrated by two Shiite militias, which have been conducting ethnic cleansing and rounding up Sunnis suspected of supporting the insurgency. Hundreds of bodies have been appearing along roadsides and in garbage dumps, some with acid burns or with holes drilled in them. According to the searing account by Solomon Moore of the Los Angeles Times, "the Baghdad morgue reports that dozens of bodies arrive at the same time on a weekly basis, including scores of corpses with wrists bound by police handcuffs." The reports followed a raid two weeks ago by U.S. troops on a clandestine Baghdad prison run by the Interior Ministry, where some 170 men, most of them Sunni and most of them starved or tortured, were found....

...Once again, however, Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld is ignoring a critical threat. Just as he dismissed the insurgency

in its formative months as a few "deadenders" and minimized the systematic breakdown of U.S. discipline in the handling of foreign prisoners as isolated freelancing, Mr. Rumsfeld now pretends not even to know about the government death squads. In a press conference last week, he called the reports "unverified comments." This despite the facts that U.S. troops uncovered the clandestine prison and that officials from the Army, FBI, Justice Department and U.S. Embassy are participating in an investigation.

Worse, Mr. Rumsfeld maintained that "the United States does not have a responsibility" to do anything about the crimes of the police forces it established and trained, other than "report it." Even the man he selected to be chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, Marine Corps Gen. Peter Pace, could not support such an irresponsible position. Standing alongside Mr. Rumsfeld, he asserted that "it is absolutely the responsibility of every U.S. service member, if they see inhumane treatment being conducted, to intervene to stop it."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/12/03/AR2005120300881.html

AGHDAD -- The Shiite-dominated Interior Ministry announced an investigation Thursday into claims of death squads in its ranks as police found a dozen more bodies, bringing the number of apparent victims of sectarian reprisal killings to at least 30 this week.

The investigation was announced after U.S. military officials indicated there was evidence to support the allegation of death squads. The 12 men found Thursday had been bound and shot in the head execution-style.

At least 27 other people were killed in violence across Iraq, including three tribal sheiks slain in a drive-by shooting. Three supporters of anti-U.S. cleric Moqtada Sadr died in a mortar barrage, and gunmen killed two owners of a convenience store that sold beer. Islamic extremists often target shops selling alcohol or DVDs deemed pornographic.

Sunni Arabs have been complaining for months that kidnappings and murder by Shiite-led commandos operated by the Interior Ministry are driving many Sunnis into the ranks of the insurgents. Shiites insist that they must retain control of Iraqi security forces in the next government.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/...,1,6840967.story?coll=chi-newsnationworld-hed
 
I know it's awfully confusing for people who have been spending so much time drawing a moral equivalence between Saddam and the United States, but for the rest of the world it's actually pretty simple.

Be on a death squad in old Iraq: get promoted
Be on a death squad in new Iraq: get arrested

Hope that helps.
 
I know it's awfully confusing for people who have been spending so much time drawing a moral equivalence between Saddam and the United States, but for the rest of the world it's actually pretty simple.

Be on a death squad in old Iraq: get promoted
Be on a death squad in new Iraq: get arrested

Hope that helps.

Since the problem is far more widespread than the one incident you take so much pride in, I have to say, no, it does not help. Not one bit.

Be on a death squad in old Iraq: get promoted
Be on a death squad in new Iraq: get promoted except for one incident where no one has even been convicted of anything yet.
 

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