Let's hold Bush to the same standard that critics hold Moore.

[headscratcher4]

I read this recently. It made me sad. More importantly, it brought home to me NYTimes Columnist Paul Krugman's point regarding Micheal Moore. Isn't it odd that Moore, an avowed polemicist who has made no secret of his politics or his loathing for the Administration and who made his movie with a stated political purpose, is held to a higher standard of truth and accuracy regarding his accusations in the movie, than the President of the United States



Meet The Press, February 7, 2004:

RUSSERT: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

PRESIDENT BUSH: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al-Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.

Rose Garden press conference, June 1, 2004:

Q: Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi leader that's fallen out of favor within your administration. I'm wondering if you feel that he provided any false information, or are you particularly —

BUSH: Chalabi?

Q: Yes, with Chalabi.

BUSH: My meetings with him were very brief. I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him.

Q: I guess I'm asking, do you feel like he misled your administration, in terms of what the expectations were going to be going into Iraq?

BUSH: I don't remember anybody walking into my office saying, Chalabi says this is the way it's going to be in Iraq.

(Source: NBC News, 2/7/04. See transcript at: msnbc.msn.com. President Bush Discusses the Iraqi Interim Government. The Rose Garden, 6/1/04. See transcript at: www.whitehouse.gov.)

 

[Grammatron]

I read this recently. It made me sad. More importantly, it brought home to me NYTimes Columnist Paul Krugman's point regarding Micheal Moore. Isn't it odd that Moore, an avowed polemicist who has made no secret of his politics or his loathing for the Administration and who made his movie with a stated political purpose, is held to a higher standard of truth and accuracy regarding his accusations in the movie, than the President of the United States



Meet The Press, February 7, 2004:

RUSSERT: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

PRESIDENT BUSH: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al-Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.

Rose Garden press conference, June 1, 2004:

Q: Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi leader that's fallen out of favor within your administration. I'm wondering if you feel that he provided any false information, or are you particularly —

BUSH: Chalabi?

Q: Yes, with Chalabi.

BUSH: My meetings with him were very brief. I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him.

Q: I guess I'm asking, do you feel like he misled your administration, in terms of what the expectations were going to be going into Iraq?

BUSH: I don't remember anybody walking into my office saying, Chalabi says this is the way it's going to be in Iraq.

(Source: NBC News, 2/7/04. See transcript at: msnbc.msn.com. President Bush Discusses the Iraqi Interim Government. The Rose Garden, 6/1/04. See transcript at: www.whitehouse.gov.)

Ok, let's.

 

[Mel]

I read this recently. It made me sad. More importantly, it brought home to me NYTimes Columnist Paul Krugman's point regarding Micheal Moore. Isn't it odd that Moore, an avowed polemicist who has made no secret of his politics or his loathing for the Administration and who made his movie with a stated political purpose, is held to a higher standard of truth and accuracy regarding his accusations in the movie, than the President of the United States



Meet The Press, February 7, 2004:

RUSSERT: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

PRESIDENT BUSH: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al-Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.

Rose Garden press conference, June 1, 2004:

Q: Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi leader that's fallen out of favor within your administration. I'm wondering if you feel that he provided any false information, or are you particularly —

BUSH: Chalabi?

Q: Yes, with Chalabi.

BUSH: My meetings with him were very brief. I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him.

Q: I guess I'm asking, do you feel like he misled your administration, in terms of what the expectations were going to be going into Iraq?

BUSH: I don't remember anybody walking into my office saying, Chalabi says this is the way it's going to be in Iraq.

(Source: NBC News, 2/7/04. See transcript at: msnbc.msn.com. President Bush Discusses the Iraqi Interim Government. The Rose Garden, 6/1/04. See transcript at: www.whitehouse.gov.)

Too many people seem to have suspended ANY standards when evaluating the Bush presidency.

 

[Blue Monk]

How true about Moore.

I find it most disturbing that the hardest hitting interviews I’ve seen in a couple of years, ones that included direct and pointed questions, all happened within a couple of days and they were all with Moore.

Sigh, I remember when talking heads were actually reporters.

 

[TillEulenspiegel]

You might as well hold a maid in the NY Hilton to the same standards as Leona Helmsley. The office of the presidency holds with it a standard higher ( as should be ) then any normal person.

Like the moral stance of a priest/rabbi, the lawfulness of a cop, the office carries with it a special position of accountability and action. That's why in my estimation a lie to a grand jury about personal sexual conduct VS a continued effort to stall, limit access and obstruction to confound and impede various committees of congress are not equivalent . Especially sense one type of behavior that tells of moral malleability of personal conduct that has no bearing and does not touch the subjects ability to govern and conversely the other is a direct abuse of office to the detriment of the peoples right to know and the oversight of the Congress.

There may be no there there, but why don't we assign a special prosecutor and impanel a grand jury and study phantoms for 7 yrs. at the cost of 64 million dollars. .........Naa That would be stupid wouldn't it? Besides It's all partisan politics . Isn't it??

 

[Cain]

I read this recently. It made me sad. More importantly, it brought home to me NYTimes Columnist Paul Krugman's point regarding Micheal Moore. Isn't it odd that Moore, an avowed polemicist who has made no secret of his politics or his loathing for the Administration and who made his movie with a stated political purpose, is held to a higher standard of truth and accuracy regarding his accusations in the movie, than the President of the United States



Meet The Press, February 7, 2004:

RUSSERT: If the Iraqis choose, however, an Islamic extremist regime, would you accept that, and would that be better for the United States than Saddam Hussein?

PRESIDENT BUSH: They're not going to develop that. And the reason I can say that is because I'm very aware of this basic law they're writing. They're not going to develop that because right here in the Oval Office I sat down with Mr. Pachachi and Chalabi and al-Hakim, people from different parts of the country that have made the firm commitment, that they want a constitution eventually written that recognizes minority rights and freedom of religion.

Rose Garden press conference, June 1, 2004:

Q: Thank you, Mr. President. Mr. Chalabi is an Iraqi leader that's fallen out of favor within your administration. I'm wondering if you feel that he provided any false information, or are you particularly —

BUSH: Chalabi?

Q: Yes, with Chalabi.

BUSH: My meetings with him were very brief. I mean, I think I met with him at the State of the Union and just kind of working through the rope line, and he might have come with a group of leaders. But I haven't had any extensive conversations with him.

Q: I guess I'm asking, do you feel like he misled your administration, in terms of what the expectations were going to be going into Iraq?

BUSH: I don't remember anybody walking into my office saying, Chalabi says this is the way it's going to be in Iraq.

(Source: NBC News, 2/7/04. See transcript at: msnbc.msn.com. President Bush Discusses the Iraqi Interim Government. The Rose Garden, 6/1/04. See transcript at: www.whitehouse.gov.)

I've just reported you to Homeland Security. Grab your ankles and put on sad face, communist.

 

[Blue Monk]

Re: Re: Let's hold Bush to the same standard that critics hold Moore.

I've just reported you to Homeland Security. Grab your ankles and put on sad face, communist.

"Badges? We don't need no stinkin' badges!" - Homeland Security