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legalize unpasteurized milk

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http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/05/a-raw-political-fight-ron-paul-battles-the-fd

“Drinking raw milk is dangerous and shouldn’t be consumed under any circumstances,” said Dara A. Corrigan, associate commissioner for regulatory affairs at the FDA. “FDA has warned the defendant on multiple occasions that introducing raw milk into interstate commerce is in violation of federal law.”
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the federal goverment considers raw milk an illegal substance just like heroin and marijuana.

"help please i need the nanny state to make laws to protect me from dangerous animal by products :( "

LMAO.. how is this FDA decision legal? the big issue here is how it relates to other natural substances people want to consume
 
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dvictr said:
the federal goverment considers raw milk an illegal substance just like heroin and marijuana.
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No, that's incorrect. It's not a controlled substance. You're allowed to possess it; it'd be difficult to make pasteurized milk without it. You're even allowed to drink it if you want. You're just not allowed to sell it.

Personally, I'm a-ok with the Feds prohibiting people from distributing dangerous products intended for human consumption.
 
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LMAO.. how is this FDA decision legal?
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LMAO because it falls under the regulatory powers of Congress...roflcopter

Edit: Before someone tries to correct me, the FDA derives its power from Congress and has for over 100 years now.
 
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Cleon said:
No, that's incorrect. It's not a controlled substance. You're allowed to possess it; it'd be difficult to make pasteurized milk without it. You're even allowed to drink it if you want. You're just not allowed to sell it.
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This.

Cleon said:
Personally, I'm a-ok with the Feds prohibiting people from distributing dangerous products intended for human consumption.
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And this.
 
dvictr said:
http://blog.chron.com/txpotomac/2011/05/a-raw-political-fight-ron-paul-battles-the-fd



the federal goverment considers raw milk an illegal substance just like heroin and marijuana.

"help please i need the nanny state to make laws to protect me from dangerous animal by products :( "

LMAO.. how is this FDA decision legal? the big issue here is how it relates to other natural substances people want to consume
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You realise that this regulation has been in force for about a 100 years, dont you?
 
NPR had a cute segment on this.... Fellow wanted to retire and become a gentleman farmer, so he bought a little farm which came with a couple of dairy cows.
Promptly, he was approached by some individuals who wanted to interest him in a deal...
They were convinced that pasteurized milk was some horrible substance devoid of nutrition, and they were in the practice of buying "shares" of dairy cows so that they could legally have access to the unpasteurized product...
Evidently, a going practice in some areas.

Incredible... But clever.
 
The "raw milk" movement is full of woo and potentially dangerous. I have no objection to the Government regulating its sale.
 
Cleon said:
Personally, I'm a-ok with the Feds prohibiting people from distributing dangerous products intended for human consumption.
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do you know what happens if you chug a bottle of vinegar? how about eating undercooked bacon? is an entire bottle of vodka safe to consume?

the question is why do YOU care if someone wants roll up basil leaves and smoke it?

“Federal agents wasted a whole year and who knows how many of our tax dollars posing as customers in order to catch Allgyer committing the ‘crime’ of selling his milk. He was not tricking people into buying it, he was not forcing people to purchase it and there had been no complaints about his product,” he said. “These were completely voluntary transactions, but ones that our nanny-state federal government did not approve of, and so they shut down his business. The arrogance of the FDA and so many other federal agencies is simply appalling. These types of police state raids on peaceful businessmen, so reminiscent of our tyrannical federal drug war, have no place in a free society.”
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dvictr said:
do you know what happens if you chug a bottle of vinegar? how about eating undercooked bacon? is an entire bottle of vodka safe to consume?
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No idea. Tried the vodka one once, though--I wouldn't recommend it.

the question is why do YOU care if someone wants roll up basil leaves and smoke it?
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I don't.
 
ok apparently its legal to sell, snort, eat, drink in some states.. its a federal crime to sell interstate.. this is such a great example of some lobbying industry paying lip service to regulaters.

its obvious this forum is filled with CFR /NWO shills.. defending corrupt government actions to the teeth. in California its completly legal, but CA farmers are prohibited from selling to Nevada and Oregon consumers.. talk about the fed gov. hurting small business.. geez

if this went up for a vote on the congress floor, how could representatives from CA vote NO and undermine local farmers business opportunities. the FDA is evil
 
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this is simply regulating health and hygiene in food sales.


Tough luck you can't sell unpasturised milk, tough luck you can't sell fish thats been stored at room temperatute all day, tough luck you can't scratch your arse and make sandwiches at the same time.

why do people yearn so much for a return to medieval times?
 
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While my brief research on the subject seems to indicate that there is more risk and not much reward in raw milk, why should it be illegal? With the proper regulations and testing, raw milk should be no more dangerous than pasteurized/homogenized milk.
 
dvictr said:
ok apparently its legal to sell, snort, eat, drink in some states.. its a federal crime to sell interstate.. this is such a great example of some lobbying industry paying lip service to regulaters.
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Which lobby would that be? The Evil Corporate Industry Association? Perhaps the Badinoff Group?

its obvious this forum is filled with CFR /NWO shills..
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talk about the fed gov. hurting small business.. geez
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Do you know what's involved in pasteurization? It's not a particularly complicated or expensive process. I seriously doubt that any farm, no matter how small, has ever gone belly-up because of pasteurization.
 
mortimer said:
While my brief research on the subject seems to indicate that there is more risk and not much reward in raw milk, why should it be illegal? With the proper regulations and testing, raw milk should be no more dangerous than pasteurized/homogenized milk.
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"100 years" ago the large commercial pasteurized milk lobby.. wanted to cut out competion from small local farmer.. they paid some shill to come out with "research" saying home grown was dangerous. the socialist regulators swallowed it whoe.. and here we are 2011
 
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EvilSmurf said:
The "raw milk" movement is full of woo and potentially dangerous. I have no objection to the Government regulating its sale.
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It's more than potentially dangerous:

Raw deal: Got diarrhea?
19 May 2009
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With this growing interest in unpasteurized dairy products has come an increase in the rate of food-born infections. The federal government developed the Grade ‘A’ Pasteurized Milk Ordinance in 1924, providing a set of guidelines for the safe processing and handling of milk products. Although all 50 states have voluntarily adopted these guidelines, the FDA has no oversight jurisdiction. It is up to individual states to determine their own safety protocols and enforcement strategies. While selling raw milk is currently illegal in 26 states, those with a will have found a way to skirt the law to get their fix of the real deal.
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Between 1973 and 1993 there was an average of 2.3 milk born disease outbreaks per year. That number increased to 5.2 per year between 1993 and 2006. Whatever the numbers are, there is no question that the increasing consumption of raw milk is a genuine threat to public health.
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http://www.sciencebasedmedicine.org/?p=491
 
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dvictr said:
"100 years" ago the large commercial pasteurized milk lobby.. wanted to cut out competion from small local farmer.. they paid some shill to come out with "research" saying home grown was dangerous. the socialist regulators swallowed it whoe.. and here we are 2011
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You wouldn't just be making **** up, would you? 'Cause I kinda think you are.
 
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