Left media bias re 911 exposed

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Left media bias re 911 and other "sensitive" topics, exposed

One of the papers linked to at this website, Left Progressive Media Inside the Propaganda Model, by Peter Phillips and Project Censored, gets into the question of the bias shown by the left "alternative media", with a view of considering any observed bias from the point of view of the Chomsky/Herman propaganda model. Unfortunately, after doing a decent job summarizing the case that there is such a bias, (see table on p. 10), the 'investigation' of the details of this bias gets all of about 1 page of woefully skimpy quotes from members and observers of the left media, starting on p.11. Furthermore, the conclusion consists of a single, 3 sentence paragraph. :

Based on the evidence presented we conclude that media concentration, PR consolidation, and post-9/11 sensitivities have all contributed to the continuation of strong support for the propaganda model theory as a significant way to understand corporate media in the US. We understand also that this theory may contribute to the news story selection process inside the left liberal media as well. Further investigation of this evidence will likely continue to develop over the next decade of media research.

The 1st sentence is certainly not contested by me, but is of little interest, since I consider main stream media all but hopeless*, and the the points listed obvious. The second sentence is interesting, but basically restates the question! That's what this paper hopefully would have elucidated.

It's the last sentence that makes this paper worth pointing to, together with the very fact that the right questions are being asked.

The table on page 10 displays 10 rows of left media entities, and 8 columns of specific issues, 2 of which are 911 related. Out of these 20, 911-related grid cells, only one was rated 'Yes-D; Coverage of the story as a debate between antagonists', and only 2 more had a plain 'Yes' in them. (Other possible ratings were:

No: Did not cover the story
Yes-P: Partial coverage of the story but left out key points
Yes-N: Opinion statement against the story or negative coverage

)

I doubt that even the 'Yes' ratings imply any sort of original, gumshoe type research. E.g., we know that Mohammed Atta was not invisible. Nor were his associates. Is the reporting of Hopsicker correct, in that some of his associates were non-Arab, white European types, involved in international drug smuggling, or isn't it? Independent investigative reporting by any of the left "alternative media" venues would involve knocking on doors, not just calling up people who have an opinion, or unverified research of their own.


* Justice cries out for it to be replaced, rather than reformed. Significant reform is impossible, since it serves it's elite masters so well. By 'replaced', I mean that the public has to deliberately turn away from it, not that legislation must put it to an end.
 
So if I get this straight, the rightist neo-con administration conducted the 911 faked attacks and the leftist media is responsible for aiding a cover up by not reporting on the TM exposure of the neo-con treason.

Is that pretty much it in a nutshell, metamars?
 
Trust me on this, the only reason there's still a "9/11 Truth Movement" is BECAUSE the media hasn't taken an interest in them.

Shine a light on that fraudfest and they'd actually have to answer questions rather than sidestep them. They'd have to give legitimate reasons why they're "just asking questions." They'd have to see what the general public thinks about their "leaders" and why.

Hell, let's give them a "Truth" day where they're all over the networks. We can call it a going away party. :p
 
I predict that in the near future we will get a synthesis of all the various Metamars critiques of media information dissemination called The Deep Propaganda Model for Manufacturing Consent for the Road to Fascism.
 
So if I get this straight, the rightist neo-con administration conducted the 911 faked attacks and the leftist media is responsible for aiding a cover up by not reporting on the TM exposure of the neo-con treason.

Is that pretty much it in a nutshell, metamars?


I think the idea that everybody in the Bush administration knew about the 911 attacks ahead of time is preposterous. So is the idea that everybody consciously aided a cover-up. As for general question of media covering up, via conspiracy, vs. being anti-democratic, via an autonomous filtering process (as described in the Chomsky/Herman propaganda model), see some recent posts of mine . Your very question is naive, even if not as naive as "So, was everybody in on it?"

I would agree with the statement, though, that by not pursuing independent 911 investigations themselves, the left media (as a whole) is effectively helping cover up what really happened.

As for why this should be so, you have to look beyond just the Herman/Chomsky propaganda model. You also need to "follow the foundation money". H/C propaganda model posits the following filters:

(1) the size, concentrated ownership, owner wealth, and profit orientation of the dominant mass-media firms; (2) advertising as the primary income source of the mass media; (3) the reliance of the media on information provided by government, business, and "experts" funded and approved by these primary sources and agents of power; (4) "flak" as a means of disciplining the media; and (5) "anticommunism" as a national religion and control mechanism.


Check out the "left gatekeeper" link in my sig, which has the following chart:

left_gatekeepers.gif


Gary Null has done investigative reporting on some of these foundations, but I don't have any links saved.
 
lol "International media" all grouped together as a tiny box in the left-hand corner, as if Skull & Bones and the CIA just control them as an afterthought.

So stupid. So very, very stupid. :rolleyes:
 
So if I get this straight, the rightist neo-con administration conducted the 911 faked attacks and the leftist media is responsible for aiding a cover up by not reporting on the TM exposure of the neo-con treason.

Is that pretty much it in a nutshell, metamars?

Can't those damn libs do anything right?:p
 
The more complicated the flow chart the more "true" it becomes..........wait..........that isn't right.
 
metamars, that chart is da bomb. I like the "IPA" in the lower left - yum! I love IPA!

And do you mean the same Gary Null, the health advice quack? The same one? Now there's an endorsement.
 
I think the idea that everybody in the Bush administration knew about the 911 attacks ahead of time is preposterous. So is the idea that everybody consciously aided a cover-up. As for general question of media covering up, via conspiracy, vs. being anti-democratic, via an autonomous filtering process (as described in the Chomsky/Herman propaganda model), see some recent posts of mine . Your very question is naive, even if not as naive as "So, was everybody in on it?"

,, Where did I say "everybody consciously aided a cover-up"?

I would agree with the statement, though, that by not pursuing independent 911 investigations themselves, the left media (as a whole) is effectively helping cover up what really happened.

So the leftist media simply did not bother to follow up any leads that would definitively destroy the ultra-right neo-cons and expose their treasonous actions because.......... they did not want to?

As for why this should be so, you have to look beyond just the Herman/Chomsky propaganda model. You also need to "follow the foundation money". H/C propaganda model posits the following filters

Check out the "left gatekeeper" link in my sig, which has the following chart:

[qimg]http://911review.com/denial/imgs/left_gatekeepers.gif[/qimg]

Gary Null has done investigative reporting on some of these foundations, but I don't have any links saved.

Wow, $100,000 manages to keep the entire world's media beyond the borders of the USA from bothering to investigate! You actually believe carp like that?

Travis posts
I predict that in the near future we will get a synthesis of all the various Metamars critiques of media information dissemination called The Deep Propaganda Model for Manufacturing Consent for the Road to Fascism.

Because everyone knows just how buddy-buddy the ultra-right Fascists are with the ultra-left Socialists
 
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Actually, it's a very serious criticism that Metamars' chart essentially eliminates the non-US media. In all languages, including English. That pretty much blows it to bits -- judging by that alone, this project is nothing but self-serving "we're Important!!" whining.
 
The more complicated the flow chart the more "true" it becomes..........wait..........that isn't right.

,, of course not, its left!
Well the chart is created by the right but its a chart of the big corporation leftist media influences. The leftists that are driven by advertising money from the large corporate entities that are all so well known as being leftist leaning and who support such evils as unionization and minimum wage legislation.

metamars is getting a little Orwellian methinks. In his case right is left and left is right.
 
metamars said:
Is the reporting of Hopsicker correct, in that some of his associates were non-Arab, white European types, involved in international drug smuggling, or isn't it?


No, it's not, but speaking of Mr Hopsicker:


Wow, what a stark inconsistency. It's hard to believe that these stories would have remained on his web site like this, for so long. I sent him an email about this. If he replies, I'll post.

Can I assume no response?
 
Actually, it's a very serious criticism that Metamars' chart essentially eliminates the non-US media. In all languages, including English. That pretty much blows it to bits -- judging by that alone, this project is nothing but self-serving "we're Important!!" whining.

$US 100,000 certainly goes a lot farther than I would have ever expected it to.
Does metamars realize that $100,000 (my VTR's are $18,000 each, and I wonder how much he and the author of that chart think this costs?) would not buy you a medium sized televison master control suite or that many network anchors make more that that per year, even those not in the USA?
I work for a very small TV station and I think my station manager might well stay clear of a story for a $100,000 grant but the CBC would use the offer and its strings as the subject of a story of corruption.
 
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,, of course not, its left!
Well the chart is created by the right but its a chart of the big corporation leftist media influences. The leftists that are driven by advertising money from the large corporate entities that are all so well known as being leftist leaning and who support such evils as unionization and minimum wage legislation.

metamars is getting a little Orwellian methinks. In his case right is left and left is right.

...and the gatekeepers are double plus good.
 
Left media bias re 911 and other "sensitive" topics, exposed

One of the papers linked to at this website, Left Progressive Media Inside the Propaganda Model, by Peter Phillips and Project Censored,
Peter Phillips and Project Censored, the same evidence you have! ZERO (9/11 stuff). Great thread, not a single shred of evidence. How do you stay 100 percent evidence free?

Pre-refuted threads are getting old, no evidence, just lies, false information, and fantasy. I love the thermite insanity repeated by your failed paper on page 5. Nice touch.
Physicist Challenges Official 9-11 Story
Research into the events of 9-11 by former Brigham Young University physics professor, Steven E. Jones, concludes that the official explanation for the collapse of the World Trade Center (WTC) buildings is implausible according to laws of physics.
Can you list the laws of physics broken on 9/11? How do you break the laws of physics? Do you understand this is an insane proposition when you include the failure to explain and support! This is your failure, not able to support the hearsay junk you post and cite.

Peter Phillips and Project Censored prove there are dumb people and news sources just as dumb or purely misleading. The conclusion should be, "some news sources are as dumb as their dumbest readers"; it would be correct.
 
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