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Killtown on a roll on Loose Change forums

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Wow, the Loose Change forums are wonderful, getting odder by the minute :D Killtown's got a wonderful no-plane thread re. a youtube video of a plane hitting the WTC South tower

Notice how effortlessly this plane's two wings and tail section slice through the steel facade as if it were warm butter and nevermind that its long fascade passes through without crumpling or slowing...And notice that the wings didn't explode until well after they sliced entirely through.

Sorry, but only the most rabid planeh*gger still thinks this plane is real.

Wake up to reality folks, no real 767 crashed through the South Tower. Only a cartoon 767 did.
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That is some cartoon plane... You can't say Loosers lack a sense of humour, though - there's also a thread on Borat. Killtown's contribution is

Isn't Borat Jewish? Probably protecting his Zionist buddies who were involved with 9/11.
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You heard it here first - fictional anti-semitic Sacha Baron Cohen character is Jewish Zionist 9/11 conspirator :jaw-dropp
 
It would appear that our old friend pdoherty did learn a little about critical thinking during his short stay at this forum. It's a shame that he is unable (or unwilling) to apply those same skills to the whole woowoo theory.

Perhaps next time he appears here in disguise we should give him the chance to learn a bit more, so long as he behaves himself?

Just a thought
 
Was able to read the thread and noted that our old pal pdoherty seems to be handling ol' KT pretty easily,,,using arguments that sound very much like what we ourselves would be using....verrrryy interesting..

ETA--uk_dave beat me to it by 2 minutes..
 
It looks like my long, arduous search for a signature is finally over :D
 
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I suspect that pdoherty is a little starstruck by being able to speak directly with the leader of the pack. For that reason alone, I doubt that he will come back over to the dark side.

But I shall say no more on the subject for fear that those on the lc forum may begin to suspect that pdoherty might actually be a sock of a jref member. You know how tricky those IP adresses can be. ;)
 
Badmachine:

There is no mystery as to why the WTC towers failed so completely. The integrity of the towers relied almost entirely upon the core structure and when cut at various points, there would be nothing to resist the near free fall speeds of the collapsing upper floors.

The plane impacts were vital in order destroy a percentage of the upper core structure. Cutting the remaining undamaged core columns at the base or even higher would be enough to intiatate a top down collapse that would go nearly unresisted due to the core being also cut and disabled at lower points.

Creating the appearance of a top down collapse (via passenger jets) was vital to disguising the apparent disabling of the structure at it's lower levels

Thermite Cut Upper Core Columns?
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http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showforum=6

It is also intriguing that the woowoo's are able to accept 90% of the official explanation for the wtc collapse, but cling on to the cd hypothesis as they are seemingly unable to grasp the concept that the plane damage and fire alone could cause the collapse. All they need is a little bit of cd to initiate the catastrophic failure and they're happy.

I suspect that it is the uncertainty about the wtc7 collapse which allows them to hold on to the vestiges of their ct
 
Man, that thread is a comedy goldmine.

Killtown said:
There shouldn't be anything confusing about it, it is either a cartoon plane .....

or a prototype 767 with "special skin" made to slice through steel which launched a missile out a fraction of a second before it sliced through.

Which one is more believable?
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Hmmmm, I'll have to think about that one for awhile.... :boggled:
 
I think someone needs to go over there and post the pictures of the fabric embedded in the stone we see here when this issue comes up.

They, especially KT, can't get his head around the fact that things less "tough" than Steel can in fact cut through steel.

TAM
 
I can't find the thread atm but the "powers that be"(DA & RP) over at LC weren't to happy about KT persisting with the "No Plane" theory and i think were on the verge of banning him but ended up relenting as long as he posted these theories in the "Alternate Theory" section

:p
 
T.A.M. said:
I think someone needs to go over there and post the pictures of the fabric embedded in the stone we see here when this issue comes up.

They, especially KT, can't get his head around the fact that things less "tough" than Steel can in fact cut through steel.

TAM
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TAM, what pictures? That sounds interesting.
 
W6102LA said:
I can't find the thread atm but the "powers that be"(DA & RP) over at LC weren't to happy about KT persisting with the "No Plane" theory and i think were on the verge of banning him but ended up relenting as long as he posted these theories in the "Alternate Theory" section

:p
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Hang on a CT site has a section called "Alternate Theory"? :D
 
PD vs. killtown, for some reason I just can not get this image out of my head.


fighting-kittens.jpg
 
maccy said:
I haven't seen any fabric in stone pictures, but there are some intersesting pictures here:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2070152#post2070152

I'd be interested to see how Killtown explains papercuts and cutting titanium with water
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ive posted this a few times, its the best explanation for the "tornado effect" ive seen, short, simple, and easy to understand (provided you arent a truther)

About the tornado. The mechanical properties of a projectile
depends on its speed. For example, if I take a soft lead bullet and press it
slowly against a steel plate, say 0.5 cm thick, using a mechanical press, it
would deform into a lead disc and the steel plate would be largely
unaffected. However, if I take the same soft lead bullet and it's fired from
a 0.357 Magnum, it would easily blow a large hole in the same steel plate.
The difference is that deformation of a projectile takes a certain amount of
time to occur. If the impact time is very short compared to this
characteristic time of deformation, the mechanical properties of the object
will be very different. This is not an uncommon phenomenon. Another example,
if I jump into a lake from a height of 1 meter, I just sink and make a
splash -- no harm. But if I jump into the same lake from an airplane at 1000
meters above the surface, I'm a pancake. I might just as well hit solid
ground. The reason is: at the speed with which I hit the water is so fast,
the water does not have time to "get out of the way" so it becomes
essentially a solid. This is what happens to straws etc. driven by tornadic
winds. They become projectiles, like an arrow.
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stateofgrace said:
PD vs. killtown, for some reason I just can not get this image out of my head.


[qimg]http://www.kittenspics.com/images/fighting-kittens.jpg[/qimg]
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PD needs a few more clone kittens taking part in this battle.
 
Good pictures. The point being, the drinks trolley from a 767 alone would make a hole in the building, if it was moving fast enough. Wrap the rest of the plane around the drinks trolley, and its going to make a heck of a hole.

But 'fabric in stone'? Still curious about that...
 
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