Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

[corplinx]

I have been thinking long and hard about Kerry's latest tactic. He will go out and declare Iraq a quagmire (indirectly but he insinuates it so hard that I invoke the Moore decision) and then to either declare that the remaining reservists and guard will be called up or have the draft mentioned by his proxies.

At first, I thought this was just scare mongering. Charles from NY started the original Draft scare and has fed the whispering campaign since its inception. However, now it seems pretty clear what Kerry's plan for Iraq is.

After winning, Kerry will call up the reserves and guard and will reinstate the draft. He will say its Bush's fault, that Bush was planning on it, and that whoever took office had do it because Bush f'ed up so badly.

In other words, Kerry is just softening the blow by putting these feelers out early.


Perhaps the Kerry camp is just doing simple scaremongering. However, without their acknowledgement of it I think the razor cuts either way about why they are doing it.

 

[American]

He'd do it just for spite.

 

[clk]

Bush's plan, repeal the first amendment

I have been thinking long and hard about Kerry's latest tactic. He will go out and declare Iraq a quagmire (indirectly but he insinuates it so hard that I invoke the Moore decision) and then to either declare that the remaining reservists and guard will be called up or have the draft mentioned by his proxies.

At first, I thought this was just scare mongering. Charles from NY started the original Draft scare and has fed the whispering campaign since its inception. However, now it seems pretty clear what Kerry's plan for Iraq is.

After winning, Kerry will call up the reserves and guard and will reinstate the draft. He will say its Bush's fault, that Bush was planning on it, and that whoever took office had do it because Bush f'ed up so badly.

In other words, Kerry is just softening the blow by putting these feelers out early.


Perhaps the Kerry camp is just doing simple scaremongering. However, without their acknowledgement of it I think the razor cuts either way about why they are doing it.

I have been thinking long and hard about Bush's latest tactic. He will go out and declare that anyone who criticizes him is giving aid to the enemy (indirectly through his proxies: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A45672-2004Sep23.html)

At first, I thought this was just scare mongering. Cheney from Washington D.C. started the original scare and has fed the whispering campaign since its inception. However, now it seems pretty clear what Bush's plan for the constitution is.

After winning, Bush will call up a special session of Congress and will repeal the first amendment. He will say its Kerry's fault, that the Democrats were giving aid and comfort to the enemy, and that whoever took office had do it because Kerry f'ed up so badly.

In other words, Bush is just softening the blow by putting these feelers out early.

Perhaps the Bush camp is just doing simple scaremongering. However, without their acknowledgement of it I think the razor cuts either way about why they are doing it.








This thread is a joke, right?

 

[corplinx]

Re: Bush's plan, repeal the first amendment

This thread is a joke, right?

Which part of it, the part where I acknowledged a behavior and provided two plausible explanations or the part where you tried to mimic it and did so poorly?

If you have a simpler explanation for why the Kerry camp keeps implying there are more reserve units about to be called or a draft I'll be happy to listen. The way his camp portrays it is that its _inevitable_ is the worrysome part. Which means if Kerry is elected......

 

[HarryKeogh]

regardless of who is elected, there will not be a draft.

we'd abandon those poor Iraqi bastards first.

 

[epepke]

Kerry plan or Corplinx' imagined Kerry plan?
Man or astroman?
Fish or cut bait?
More taste or less filling?
Pee or get off the pot?

You decide, Mr. and Mrs. America!

 

[clk]

Re: Re: Bush's plan, repeal the first amendment

the part where I acknowledged a behavior and provided two plausible explanations

Plausible? Seemed more like border-line conspiracy theory to me.

If you have a simpler explanation for why the Kerry camp keeps implying there are more reserve units about to be called

Yes, as a matter of fact, I do have a simpler explanation. Kerry has already stated his detailed plan for Iraq. Now what do you think is more likely:
1. That the plan he unveiled is actually fake and that Kerry has another secret plan for Iraq that only the Democrats know about which involves calling up the reserve and guard, and he is now sending out subliminal messages in his speeches so that he can shift the blame to Bush when he is elected.

or

2. Kerry is engaging in scare mongering.


It's scare mongering, nothing more, nothing less. HarryKeogh is right, the Iraqis will be abandoned before a draft happens.

 

[Luke T.]

Kerry said he would end what he called "the back door draft" of Reservists. So does that mean a front door draft?

It means either an increase in recruitment of active duty forces, or an abandonment of Iraq. Kerry is exercisng wishful thinking if he thinks he can get the U.N. to pick up the load.

 

[Charlie Monoxide]

GOP tactic #67

Say the complete opposite and say it loud and say it proud .....

Charlie (ugly campaign and going to get uglier) Monoxide

 

[Jocko]

GOP tactic #67

Say the complete opposite and say it loud and say it proud .....

Charlie (ugly campaign and going to get uglier) Monoxide

Well, if you're saying something opposite of inflammatory, implausible and just plain stupid, then three cheers for the GOP.

 

[jj]

Articles like that below cause me to think that the Bushazis are starting to think that they're losing again, because they're starting up with the ridiculous smear campaigns instead of gloating, strutting, and baring their muscles like they were a week ago.

What a sorry lot of "might makes right" thugs!

I have been thinking long and hard about Kerry's latest tactic. He will go out and declare Iraq a quagmire (indirectly but he insinuates it so hard that I invoke the Moore decision) and then to either declare that the remaining reservists and guard will be called up or have the draft mentioned by his proxies.

At first, I thought this was just scare mongering. Charles from NY started the original Draft scare and has fed the whispering campaign since its inception. However, now it seems pretty clear what Kerry's plan for Iraq is.

After winning, Kerry will call up the reserves and guard and will reinstate the draft. He will say its Bush's fault, that Bush was planning on it, and that whoever took office had do it because Bush f'ed up so badly.

In other words, Kerry is just softening the blow by putting these feelers out early.


Perhaps the Kerry camp is just doing simple scaremongering. However, without their acknowledgement of it I think the razor cuts either way about why they are doing it.

 

[corplinx]

Re: Re: Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

Articles like that below cause me to think that the Bushazis are starting to think that they're losing again, because they're starting up with the ridiculous smear campaigns instead of gloating, strutting, and baring their muscles like they were a week ago.

What a sorry lot of "might makes right" thugs!

Bahahahaha, poor deluded JJ. The draft scaremongering is a 100 percent democrat tactic. The whispering campaign is theirs. I simply suggest that if calling more reserves or a draft is a inevitable as they portray, then it is probably what they will do when they are in charge.

It really gives me a chuckle to read your posts, I still can't tell you from Tmy.

 

[shanek]

I'm still waiting for someone to adequately explain how a draft isn't involuntary servitude...

 

[jj]

Re: Re: Re: Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

I simply suggest that if calling more reserves or a draft is a inevitable as they portray, then it is probably what they will do when they are in charge.

In other words, you made it up and said it out loud, with not a trace of evidence.

You remind me of Prescott Bush.

 

[corplinx]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

In other words, you made it up and said it out loud, with not a trace of evidence.

JJ, you big woo-woo. You know better. I said that without an admission from the Kerry camp and his supporters that what they are doing is simple scaremongering, that the "buffering the blow" is just as good as an explanation. Its not farfetched in any way.

What is farfetched are the psychic claims these guys are making when they say Bush will call up more guardsmen or open the draft.

JJ, this forum doesnt have to be partisan. We can talk about John Kerry without it being a pro-Bush post. We can criticize one sides tactics and behaviors without implicitly endorsing the other side. This isn't relgious fundamentalism. Admitting that the guy you are voting for does something wrongheaded or silly doesn't mean your vote is wrong.

You haven't yet made the leap from side-taking and slogan repeating to skepticism but I hold out hope for you bub.

 

[HarryKeogh]

I'm still waiting for someone to adequately explain how a draft isn't involuntary servitude...

start a thread and pose the question.

 

[clk]

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I said that without an admission from the Kerry camp and his supporters that what they are doing is simple scaremongering, that the "buffering the blow" is just as good as an explanation.

Why on Earth would they admit that they are scare mongering? The whole point of it is to scare voters into voting for Kerry. If Kerry admits that he is just saying this stuff to scare voters, then it renders the tactic useless and undermines his credibility. As long as its working, why would he admit he is saying scary stuff for political reasons?

 

[jj]

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JJ, you big woo-woo. You know better


Well poisoning, and a deliberate, very serious professional insult, one that I require that you retract immediately.


I said that without an admission from the Kerry camp and his supporters that what they are doing is simple scaremongering, that the "buffering the blow" is just as good as an explanation. Its not farfetched in any way.


In other words you admit, you made it up, plain and simple. You made it up, because your candidate got caught out showing the same performance as his granddaddy.


...
You haven't yet made the leap from side-taking and slogan repeating to skepticism but I hold out hope for you bub.

You're the one who makes things up and then complains when you get caught, not me. You epitomize the partisan. You make something up, throw it out to see what happens, and then try to defend your behavior when caught using the "big lie".

 

[corplinx]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Kerry's Plan, Reinstate the Draft

1. You're the one who makes things up
2. and then complains when you get caught, not me.
3. You epitomize the partisan.
4. You make something up, throw it out to see what happens,
5. and then try to defend your behavior when caught using the "big lie".

1. Yes, its called "thinking". You should try it sometime. I speculated as to why their camp was saying something. There was no subterfuge here, I didn't claim to have secret memos backing it up. You should try having an original thought sometime yourself.

2. I didn't "get caught". I could care less if you don't like my post. You are a practically a down the line partisan and I've never seen anything from you resembling an independent thought.

3. Yes, I epitomize the partisan. From praise of Bill Clinton's record to defending CBS giving out the phone number of the Kerry campaign to any other number of things you ignore because I also debunk crap about the Bush admin I guess I am a balls to the wall partisan. Keep living with those blinders on JJ, nothing is stopping you.

4. Yes, I did make something up and throw it out. Its called speculation and sometimes provocation. I'm proud of it.

5. "big lie"? Not only are you a woo-woo when it comes to politics JJ but you're also ignorant, a boor, and worse you seem to argue for the sake of argueing.

Let me just put you back on ignore trollboy.

 

[jj]

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5. "big lie"? Not only are you a woo-woo when it comes to politics JJ but you're also ignorant, a boor, and worse you seem to argue for the sake of argueing.

And the big lie goes on, and on, and on.

I've read history. Either you haven't, or you agree with grandaddy Bush.