Ken Ham’s Ark Encounter theme park loses tax incentive

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Some good news on this front:

It looks like we sunk the ship!

According to the Courier-Journal the Kentucky Tourism, Arts and Heritage Cabinet has said the theme park has evolved into a ministry that seeks to advance religion and is discriminating against employees.

“State tourism tax incentives cannot be used to fund religious indoctrination or otherwise be used to advance religion,” Tourism Secretary Bob Stewart wrote in the letter. “The use of state incentives in this way violates the separation of church and state provisions of the Constitution and is therefore impermissible.”

The organization denied any wrongdoing however, a stance hard to defend when the Ark Encounters own website says,

“The purpose of the Ark Encounter is to point people to the only means of salvation from sin, the Lord Jesus Christ, who also is the only God-appointed way to escape eternal destruction.”

http://www.patheos.com/blogs/danthropology/2014/12/ken-hams-ark-encounter-loses-tax-incentive/

Link to Courier-Journal article:
http://www.courier-journal.com/stor...10/ky-grant-ark-park-tax-incentives/20207341/
 
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Shouldn't the Ark be built on a high peak, like Alaska or California? (oops- too many soulless in California)
 
They should come here and build it where it actually belongs. I am sure they would get a lot of business from Iran and Armenia. It might be hard getting the materials 5,000 or so meters up, but maybe they can pray and the baby Jesus would help them out.
 
So he lost his tax incentives, but keeps his tax dodge?

If it's a ministry, it doesn't seem like the enterprise would need a tax abatement in the first place.
 
I doubt if he ever intended to build it it was just another way to float the money out of wallets.

I'm quite confident he saw "The Producers" and decided it made a decent business model. I suspect going after the tax incentives in the first place was done to intentionally bring in the non-discrimination baggage that came with them. Now he can use the expenses of a lawsuit with the state to not only raise more money, but cover up any funds he embezzles from the operation.

Ken Ham may be a rotten scientist, but he's a brilliant con man.

Hell, The whole Ark Experience being a con job is a PLOT POINT in both the published Dirk Bastings adventures.

Dirk Bastings, Private Dick For Hire (The Adventures of Dirk Bastings Book 1) (WARNING: Features a fictionalized Ken Ham as a power bottom.)

The Impostor: The PG sequel to the X-rated original (The Adventures of Dirk Bastings Book 2)
 
Answers in Genesis was seeking approval to participate in a state tax-incentive program that would have let the park keep 25 percent of the sales tax it collects for 10 years, amounting to more than $18 million.
Answers in Genesis had received a green light from the finance authority in 2011 for its entire $172.5 million project. But, it withdrew the application amid financing troubles and returned this year seeking approval for only the first phase.
Ark Encounter has said publicly that the project will be built regardless of availability of state incentives

If they were planning to really complete this thing, doesn't look like this will stop them. Apparently they've broken ground and begun excavation. The tax incentive is really wrapped up in predictions on revenue once the park is open. Which admittedly, if the predictions change, the investments to fund the park could change and kill it.

So that would be my question: how is the park funded, and will this discourage that funding?
 
If they were planning to really complete this thing, doesn't look like this will stop them. Apparently they've broken ground and begun excavation. The tax incentive is really wrapped up in predictions on revenue once the park is open. Which admittedly, if the predictions change, the investments to fund the park could change and kill it.

So that would be my question: how is the park funded, and will this discourage that funding?

I do like the idea of excavating an Ark...

:)
 
I'm quite confident he saw "The Producers" and decided it made a decent business model. I suspect going after the tax incentives in the first place was done to intentionally bring in the non-discrimination baggage that came with them. Now he can use the expenses of a lawsuit with the state to not only raise more money, but cover up any funds he embezzles from the operation.

Ken Ham may be a rotten scientist, but he's a brilliant con man.

Hell, The whole Ark Experience being a con job is a PLOT POINT in both the published Dirk Bastings adventures.

Dirk Bastings, Private Dick For Hire (The Adventures of Dirk Bastings Book 1) (WARNING: Features a fictionalized Ken Ham as a power bottom.)

The Impostor: The PG sequel to the X-rated original (The Adventures of Dirk Bastings Book 2)

OK - I have to ask...

What's a "power bottom"?

Is it some kind of euphemism?
 
Why do even the most literalist of Bible thumpers ignore the bit about rendering unto Caesar what is his? Even when their God orders them to pay their taxes people try to worm out of it.

Which goes to prove they worship not God but Mammon. If I were God I'd have a special extra bad hell for that sort of thing.
 
Interesting as to the concept that allows one to argue that the project is not a violation of the separation of church and state, yet to argue that:
“The purpose of the Ark Encounter is to point people to the only means of salvation from sin, the Lord Jesus Christ, who also is the only God-appointed way to escape eternal destruction.”
 

From the Courier-Journal article:
And one of the group's attorneys, James Parsons, sent a letter to the cabinet on Monday arguing that the state's demands on hiring policies violate state and federal law.

"If you insist on the newly imposed condition... it will amount to unconstitutional viewpoint discrimination and my client will have no choice but to seek redress in federal court," Parsons wrote.

The letter describes Ark Encounter as an "overtly religious entity" that is "clearly allowed" under state and federal law to use religious criteria in hiring. It also argues that the state's conditions will impose a burden on the freedom of religion without a compelling government interest.
I think before you can claim that the hiring requirements are "a burden on the freedom of religion," you need to decide whether you're a religion exempt from the requirements, or a for-profit business that is not. The weasel-word framing of Ark Encounter (a for-profit LLC)* as an "overtly religious entity" just strikes me as an attempt to eat their cake and have it too- they avoid saying outright "church" or "religion," which would mean no state support (by rebates of taxes that you would only collect from customers, then pay to the state, if you were a business in the first place), but still claim the privilege of a church to hire only the religious (of their faith).

*It's interesting the way the whole thing is set up- Ark Encounter itself is a for-profit LLC owned by a non-profit 501 (c)(3), Crosswater Canyon, which is, in turn, controlled by Answers In Genesis. Why such a complicated structure? This is from Exhibit 5 (in a PDF file) in a letter from the Freedom From Religion Foundation to the IRS asking them to investigate Ham's shenanigans- it's a screen capture from Ark Encounter's website, answering the question "Why is the project so big, and why is an LLC involved?":
The for-profit LLC structure also allows the Ark Encounter to be eligible for various economic development incentives that would not have been available with a non-profit structure.

(It's interesting that, if you go to Ark Encounter's website today, that same question no longer has the same answer as in FFRF's screen-capture; something to hide, Hammy?)

IOW, Ham wants the benefits of law, in setting up a structure that allows him the "various economic development incentives that would not have been available with a non-profit structure"- the money to build and run the thing- but also wants to avoid the strictures of the same law that address the staffing of it. He needs the money he can't get as a church, but wants to run it as one.

And it's persecution of his freedom of religion when he can't have it both ways.
 
Interesting. I wonder if that structure is legal in and of itself.

I work for an insurance company. We are a non-profit insurance company, which places limits on what we can do with the funds we make (a certain percentage can go to company growth, a certain percentage has to be banked to pay out claims, etc). A few years back, we wanted to open a for profit side-business to provide technology services to other businesses. In order to do that legally, we had to re-organize, and make our parent corporation a for profit company, with the insurance company as a non-profit subsidiary.

Of course, I am not a lawyer, not an executive in our company, so there may have been some other reason for our reorganization that I'm unaware of.
 
I would add that even if it was a private, non-profit religious entity, the Ark project might be able to discriminate in favor of the appropriate religion in hiring (only if the job of these hires is directly related to their religion: to my understanding you can hire only Catholics for a priest position in a Catholic church, but not for a custodian position in the same church).

But if so, then I believe that you would not qualify for tax incentives by the State. As I understand it, the Ark project can still hire preferentially if they wish and can justify it, but the State simply said that they cannot qualify for tax incentives if they do so. Please correct me if I am wrong.
 
I would add that even if it was a private, non-profit religious entity, the Ark project might be able to discriminate in favor of the appropriate religion in hiring (only if the job of these hires is directly related to their religion: to my understanding you can hire only Catholics for a priest position in a Catholic church, but not for a custodian position in the same church).

But if so, then I believe that you would not qualify for tax incentives by the State. As I understand it, the Ark project can still hire preferentially if they wish and can justify it, but the State simply said that they cannot qualify for tax incentives if they do so. Please correct me if I am wrong.

That's my understanding, as well. Not that I'm an expert, mind you.
 

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