Just watched "Harold and Maude" on DVD...

Great movie; I'm surprised you didn't get it.

It's about embracing life.
 
I love this movie. Especially Maude.

I think I'll rent it tomorrow.

Skeptic, what didn't you like about it?
 
I was writing tongue-in-cheek. Actually, I like this movie A LOT: great acting, original and interesting plot, etc.

I was merely noting that it is an absurdist fantasy, with its "social commentary" and "philosophical point" being (deliberately) over-the-top.

To my amazement, people try to look "through" the absurd fantasy into the "real message" of the movie... which is a bit like writing a theology book based on LIFE OF BRIAN.
 
I don't know why I was thinking about "Harold and Maude" lately. I think it was because I read about a suicide of a young man.

I haven't seen the film, I have seen it as play in the theatre and I loved it. It's one of the most well-composed hymns to life and an accurate account of the irrational "phaenomenon" that is called "falling in love".

Another reason I loved it was because Maude reminds me of my grandmother.

When I saw this thread I searched Amazon to find a copy of the DVD but it's a region 1 dvd and I won't be able to see it. Pity.

Maybe we should start a thread about the movies we see on DVD so as to exchange ideas, opinions etc,etc.
 
Skeptic said:
To my amazement, people try to look "through" the absurd fantasy into the "real message" of the movie... which is a bit like writing a theology book based on LIFE OF BRIAN.

I have a friend who is an evangelical Christian, and he pointed out that Life of Brian was really quite accurate with respect to the growth industry of Messiahs around that time.
 
epepke said:


I have a friend who is an evangelical Christian, and he pointed out that Life of Brian was really quite accurate with respect to the growth industry of Messiahs around that time.

I used to know an evangelical who was forbidden (by his church) to watch Life of Brian...blasphemy, ya know?
 
Skeptic said:
I was writing tongue-in-cheek. Actually, I like this movie A LOT: great acting, original and interesting plot, etc.

I was merely noting that it is an absurdist fantasy, with its "social commentary" and "philosophical point" being (deliberately) over-the-top.

To my amazement, people try to look "through" the absurd fantasy into the "real message" of the movie... which is a bit like writing a theology book based on LIFE OF BRIAN.

Living life to the fullest is over the top? Why?
 
Mark said:


Living life to the fullest is over the top? Why?

(WARNING: SPOILER ALERT!)

Well, it isn't, but when the two main protagonists for "living life to the fullest" are:

a). an immortal who repeatedly commits suicide unsuccesfully because he "enjoys being dead" and

b). a woman who kills herself on her 80th birthday because she doesn't like her age...

...I'd say the "live life to the fullest" message is tongue-in-cheek, a bit like Brian's "is it the secret of eternal life?".
 
Skeptic said:


(WARNING: SPOILER ALERT!)

Well, it isn't, but when the two main protagonists for "living life to the fullest" are:

a). an immortal who repeatedly commits suicide unsuccesfully because he "enjoys being dead" and

b). a woman who kills herself on her 80th birthday because she doesn't like her age...

...I'd say the "live life to the fullest" message is tongue-in-cheek, a bit like Brian's "is it the secret of eternal life?".

Uh...I think you'd better watch it again. There is no "immortal" in the film; Harold fakes his death several times because he is afraid to live. (The self immolation scene is hysterical)

Maude certainly doesn't kill herself because she doesn't "like her age." She was a survivor of German concentration camps, for goodness sake! (A subtle point you may have missed, I grant you.) If you had ever been the caregiver for someone with Alzheimer's or Parkinsons (I have) you would understand the point better. There does come a point when clinging to life is like a miser clutching a pile of coins that he will never, ever use.

In the end, Harold goes off to live and be happy. Maude's legacy lives on through him. "Things grow and change and die and turn into something else," as Maude said to Harold in the field of daisys.
 
Yeap, exactly as Mark said it :)

Harold is calling for people's real attention with those suicides of his, he grew up in a family that nobody taugh him anything really important, like how to love the trees, how to appreciate the starts and the sea. He commits those silly suicide attempts in order to attract his mother real attention who exhausts her love towards him just by spending money and looking for the best bride for him.

Maude on the other hand had seen everything. She had experienced the cruelest and the brightest side of human's nature, she talked to the trees, she adored the sea, she committed suicide just to let Harold live.

Does the film has the final scene in the cemetary where Harold plays saxophone to Maude's grave or this was the end at the theatrical version?
 
Cleopatra said:
Yeap, exactly as Mark said it :)

Harold is calling for people's real attention with those suicides of his, he grew up in a family that nobody taugh him anything really important, like how to love the trees, how to appreciate the starts and the sea. He commits those silly suicide attempts in order to attract his mother real attention who exhausts her love towards him just by spending money and looking for the best bride for him.

Maude on the other hand had seen everything. She had experienced the cruelest and the brightest side of human's nature, she talked to the trees, she adored the sea, she committed suicide just to let Harold live.

Does the film has the final scene in the cemetary where Harold plays saxophone to Maude's grave or this was the end at the theatrical version?

He plays the banjo (which Maude gave him) while looking down at his deliberately crashed Jaguar/hearse; he then walks off, still playing, dancing, and ready to live.

I don't think Maude killed herself so much for Harold's sake, as she did simply because it was time to go out with dignity. I do think her refusal to reconsider the decision was for Harold's sake. A rather fine distinction, I suppose...
 
Btw, did you see Bud Cort in the movie "Dogma?" (Another great film, btw) Wow...the years have not been particularly kind to ol' Harold. Great to see him working again, though.
 
Mark said:
He plays the banjo (which Maude gave him) while looking down at his deliberately crashed Jaguar/hearse; he then walks off, still playing, dancing, and ready to live.

I don't think Maude killed herself so much for Harold's sake, as she did simply because it was time to go out with dignity. I do think her refusal to reconsider the decision was for Harold's sake. A rather fine distinction, I suppose...

Arggggggg I want to see the film!!!!!!!!

Maybe you are right! It was time for her to go anyway and but it wouldn't be appropriate for a person at her age to be involved with such a young man. I think that Maude's character would find it inappropriate.

No, I haven't seen the film Dogma.
 
Cleopatra said:


No, I haven't seen the film Dogma.

You must! Another very quirky, funny, enjoybale, thought provoking film. Also very crude (Hey, it's a Jay and Silent Bob film, after all).
 
I loved Harold & Maude but I haven't seen it in a very long time. After reading this thread, I am really wanting to watch it again.

Dogma is very funny. A bit too pro-god for me, but definitely anti-religion.
 
Mark said:
Btw, did you see Bud Cort in the movie "Dogma?" (Another great film, btw) Wow...the years have not been particularly kind to ol' Harold. Great to see him working again, though.

I didn't recognize him. Who did he play?
 
He was the Earthly form that god took to play skee-ball. He was beaten up in the opening scene and spent the rest of the movie in a coma.
 
TruthSeeker said:


I didn't recognize him. Who did he play?

"God." As the old man in the begining who got beaten into a coma.

Edited to add:
Hey, Foofer beat me to it!
 

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