Judge Souter Pays the Piper

Mephisto

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It seems as though conservative Supreme Court Judge, David Souter has opened the door to some problems regarding his home in Weare, New Hampshire.

Apparently, a corporation called Freestar Media wants to build a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road, the present location of Mr. Souter's home. The corporation is ready to show that the hotel will bring much needed revenue to the city and, Mr. Logan Darrow Clements, the CEO of FreeStar Media has filed a petition with the code enforcements office of the Weare township to begin the application process to start building the hotel.

In spite of the fact that this is obviously a political gesture by someone with enough money to put Mr. Souter on the spot, I LOVE the idea of someone rich showing a conservative Republican WHY laws like these aren't in the interest of the American spirit.
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Here is the link to the letter filed by FreeStar Media with the code enforcement division of Weare, New Hampshire

http://www.freestarmedia.com/hotellostliberty1.html
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Here is an article detailing the proposed businesses the new hotel will accomodate - Too bad more rich Americans don't stand up to these bastards with a taste of their own medicine.
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"Clements, CEO of Freestar Media, LLC, points out that the City of Weare will certainly gain greater tax revenue and economic benefits with a hotel on 34 Cilley Hill Road than allowing Mr. Souter to own the land.

The proposed development, called "The Lost Liberty Hotel" will feature the "Just Desserts Café" and include a museum, open to the public, featuring a permanent exhibit on the loss of freedom in America. Instead of a Gideon's Bible each guest will receive a free copy of Ayn Rand's novel "Atlas Shrugged."

Clements indicated that the hotel must be built on this particular piece of land because it is a unique site being the home of someone largely responsible for destroying property rights for all Americans."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1432150/posts
 
I like the idea, but I think this should be direct more towards the offending members on the city council of New London (that was the town right?)
 
Souter is a conservative?

The people at Freestar are rich? I thought the guy behind it was trying to get donations and pledges to stay there in order to make a big press announcement and symbolic gesture.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
Souter is a conservative?

Well, he was nominated as a conservative but he has, in his rulings, demonstrated that he is even less of one than the conservative that nominated him.

I would say no, he's not a conservative. The liberals will say yes, he is a conservative. He would say, "No Way! That's My Property by golly! What! A hundred grand!? Heck, I've got more than that invested in my shrubbery! The pool out back is worth 250! Jeebus, I'll fight this tooth and nail! I'll take you to municiple court! I'll take it to the supreme court if I have to!" I personally hope they take it. I love poetic justice.
 
For any liberals on this board that think he is a conservative, how would you feel about him stepping down and Bush appointing another conservative in his place?

Just curious.

Also, does anyone have a link to his address so I can google a sat-map of his crib? I bet it's nice. I bet his yard is very well-trimmed. I bet you'll just be able to make out the lawn crew busily cutting the hedges.
 
Rob Lister said:
For any liberals on this board that think he is a conservative, how would you feel about him stepping down and Bush appointing another conservative in his place?

Just curious.

Also, does anyone have a link to his address so I can google a sat-map of his crib? I bet it's nice. I bet his yard is very well-trimmed. I bet you'll just be able to make out the lawn crew busily cutting the hedges.

The address was in the first post, though it probably shoudn't have been.

Here's your map.

I also wonder who really believes Souter is a conservative.
 
Rob Lister said:
For any liberals on this board that think he is a conservative, how would you feel about him stepping down and Bush appointing another conservative in his place?

Just curious.

Also, does anyone have a link to his address so I can google a sat-map of his crib? I bet it's nice. I bet his yard is very well-trimmed. I bet you'll just be able to make out the lawn crew busily cutting the hedges.

Despite what many on the Right would have us believe, political leaning is a bell curve, not black or white. Of course Souter is a conservative...he just isn't a reactionary, conservative extremist like Gonzales or Bush.
 
Mark said:
Despite what many on the Right would have us believe, political leaning is a bell curve, not black or white. Of course Souter is a conservative...he just isn't a reactionary, conservative extremist like Gonzales or Bush.

Lay out the curve as you see it. Who on the Court is Right/Moderate/Liberal?
 
aerocontrols said:
The address was in the first post, though it probably shoudn't have been.

Here's your map.

I also wonder who really believes Souter is a conservative.

Ah! Thanks. I should have suspected that resolution would be restricted to the fourth level for the entire area. Actually, I'm a little surprised that don't restrict it to the tenth.
 
Mark said:
Despite what many on the Right would have us believe, political leaning is a bell curve, not black or white.

Can you name three of the "many on the right" that have demonstrated a desire to "have us believe" that?

1. _________ Evidence: ____________________________
2. _________ Evidence: ____________________________
3. _________ Evidence: ____________________________
 
Mephisto said:
In spite of the fact that this is obviously a political gesture by someone with enough money to put Mr. Souter on the spot, I LOVE the idea of someone rich showing a conservative Republican WHY laws like these aren't in the interest of the American spirit.
I like it also since I hate the ruling but why do you make a point about a conservative Republican? As I understand the vote was not party line and went against the grain of typical votes.
 
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RandFan said:
I like it also since I hate the ruling but why do you make a point about a conservative Republican? As I understand the vote was not party line and went against the grain of typical votes.

A vote would have to be 7-2 to be party line. If the vote had been party line, then in all probability it would have gone the other way.

The vote doesn't appear to me to have gone against the grain. The conservative justices (plus one moderate) voted one way, and the liberal justices (plus one moderate) voted the other. The conservatives voted in favor of economic liberty, and the liberals voted to expand government power.
 
Hang on a second here . . .

aerocontrols said:
The conservatives voted in favor of economic liberty, and the liberals voted to expand government power.

I should worry! Expanding government power is something everyone should take seriously coming from the mouth of a conservative - you know, the group that brought you religion as a political party as well as that "non-obtrusive" Patriot Act.
 
Re: Hang on a second here . . .

Mephisto said:
I should worry! Expanding government power is something everyone should take seriously coming from the mouth of a conservative - you know, the group that brought you religion as a political party as well as that "non-obtrusive" Patriot Act.

When you say "coming from the mouth of a conservative", to whom are you referring? You quoted aerocontrols but previously you stated, astonishingly enough, that Souter was conservative.

I wait to see if it's neither of the two and meant to be a subject change or strawman. If it's either of the two I might have a refuting reply.
 
Re: Hang on a second here . . .

Mephisto said:
I should worry! Expanding government power is something everyone should take seriously coming from the mouth of a conservative - you know, the group that brought you religion as a political party as well as that "non-obtrusive" Patriot Act.
Ok, ah... how does this address aero's point? Is aero correct?
 
Mephisto said:
I should worry! Expanding government power is something everyone should take seriously coming from the mouth of a conservative - you know, the group that brought you religion as a political party as well as that "non-obtrusive" Patriot Act.

Hang on.. Mephisto has an ad-hom derail.
 
Mark said:
Despite what many on the Right would have us believe, political leaning is a bell curve, not black or white. Of course Souter is a conservative...he just isn't a reactionary, conservative extremist like Gonzales or Bush.

You may have missed this while you were away from the forums, Mark, so I'm bumping my question:


Lay out the curve as you see it. Who on the Court is Conservative/Moderate/Liberal?
 
aerocontrols said:
You may have missed this while you were away from the forums, Mark, so I'm bumping my question:


Lay out the curve as you see it. Who on the Court is Conservative/Moderate/Liberal?

I regard them all as conservative to varying degrees.
 
Mark said:
I regard them all as conservative to varying degrees.

Thanks. I guess that lets us know who is lecturing us.

Political leaning isn't black and white. It's various shades of black.

And my simple request of you to lay out where the individual members of the Court stand according to you is apparently too difficult.
 

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