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John Lennon committed suicide...

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I had a discussion many years ago with a friend of mine (lets call him Bob for the sake of anonymity) about John Lennon and the recording of the Double Fantasy album. At a point in our discussion, Bob says "How did John Lennon die?" Of course my answer was Mark Chapman shot him 7 times in the back right outside of his apartment building. To which Bob tells me "No, he killed himself."

Bob went on to tell me that he wrote a research paper in high school that "proved" how he killed himself. Some of what he told me was rather compelling however Bob had something to learn about how to "prove" something if he's going to make such a bold claim.

There were a few things he pointed out to me such as in the song "Just Like Starting Over" you hear a indecipherable distorted voice appear toward the end of the song (Yoko?). Bob told me that was a voice saying "John Lennon will die on December 8, 1980". To this day, no one really knows for sure what the distorted voice is saying.

Bob also told me that the Double Fantasy album was compiled so that Yoko's songs would follow John's and if you listen to the context of each song it's as if they're arguing with each other (I agree with this part of his claim - read the lyrics to each song on Double Fantasy - Yoko seems rather bitter). Bob told me that their marriage was not going well at this point and it's possible Yoko was even thinking of divorcing John and this was devastating to him. Thus, reason for him to commit suicide.

So I ask why would John go through the trouble of writing an album saying he's going to kill himself, hire an assassin, put his family through such grief and misery, pay out all of this money to have his death publicized when all he had to do was just commit suicide? I even asked these questions to Bob and he really did not have an answer.

I also asked Bob how he thinks a big name like John Lennon, who knows a lot of people and is a connected personality in the name of entertainment would be able to keep such a thing secret? It just doesn't make sense!

So now I ask the JREF - Has anyone else ever heard this particular conspiracy theory?
 
However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!!
 
However, writing up this thread influenced me to break out my vinyl copy of Double Fantasy and listen to "Starting Over"... that voice toward the end of the song is rather spooky! However, for the life of me I cannot figure out what is being said!!!

Its an airline announcement
 
That's what I told Bob.

I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy
 
I just checked with John, bit of a wait on the Ouija board but got through eventually. He was also a bit suprised Larry King retired, but other than that he seemed pretty happy

Tell him that I'm sorry about not really digging his music until 1989!!
 
i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice
 
i think John Lennon killed Mark Chapman but before he did it he swapped bodies like that film Big. He was sick of being famous,you can tell this is true because if you play Cold Turkey backwards Lennon clearly says i want to be free, a line he also sings on the Queen song of the same name. You can tell that Queen really are the Beatles. Mcartney faked his death and returned as the bass player in Queen. Just ask George Harrison he'll tell ya. Oh he's not dead either he plays the ginger guy in CSI spin off show Miami Vice

Psh. What a load of crap. Everyone knows that George Harrison is Susan Boyle. The ginger on CSI is Mike Nesmith of the Monkees. Geez. :rolleyes:
 
A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.
 
A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.

More like he was gonna have her killed to prevent her screaming over any more of his tunes but Chapman was a **** shot and hit him instead.
 
A better conspiracy would have Yoko planning to have John killed because he was thinking about getting the Beatles back together.

The butchered babies album cover explains it all. John Lennon was fascinated with death!
 
Let me guess, Paul and Ringo wrote "A Catcher in the Rye."

They did, and it's full of subliminal messages. Take the beginning, for example:

If you really want to hear about it, the first thing you'll probably want to know that John Lennon is a jerk John Lennon is a jerk is where I was born, and what my lousy childhood was like, and how You must kill him kill kill kill my parents were occupied and all before they had me...
 
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