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"Jersey Girls"

BenBurch said:
What's the deal with this Truther sub-group?
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3 widows that lost husband or son on 9/11

afaik it was them that public demanded investigations till they got one. they asked Kissinger about his bussines with the Bin Laden fam. then he resigned from the commission.
about the commission findings they say that most of theyr questions was never handled nor answered.

they still demand independend reinvestigations.
 
Kristen Breitweiser, Patty Casazza, Lorie Van Auken, and Mindy Kleinberg

oops 4
 
Breitweiser has not embraced "Trutherism" unlike Casazza, Kleinberg and Van Auken. I used to assume that the latter were just going along with the Troofers because their interests (a new investigation) coincided, but these days the three remaining Jersey Girls are pretty much nutbar conspiracy theorists, talking about how cellphones can't work, and why did Building 7 collapse and how did the Secret Service know Bush was safe at Booker Elementary.
 
My neighbor who lives across the hall in my apartment building lost 2 of her sons who
worked for Cantor Fitzgerald in North Tower. I don't hear her whining and spewing out
idiotic truther crap...

Real classy lady .....
 
Are those the women who lost husbands in the attack and are now being exploited by the Truth Movement every chance it gets?
 
yes, but unfortunately they have full bought the snake oil now.

TAM:)
 
so out of three thousand victims they have a total of Four spouses of four victims who are not satisfied,, that would be point one three percent of all victims families. You would think there would be more nutbars.
 
A W Smith said:
so out of three thousand victims they have a total of Four spouses of four victims who are not satisfied,, that would be point one three percent of all victims families. You would think there would be more nutbars.
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no there are more than those 4 that demand reinvestigations among them also someone that claims the US gov murdered his son on 9/11.
 
A W Smith said:
so out of three thousand victims they have a total of Four spouses of four victims who are not satisfied,, that would be point one three percent of all victims families. You would think there would be more nutbars.
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It's actually a much smaller figure, because each victim had more than one family member. Add in all the parents, children, brothers, sisters, grandparents, grandchildren... well, you get the picture.

Also, I believe at least one of the Jersey Girls lost a child, not a spouse.
 
A W Smith said:
so out of three thousand victims they have a total of Four spouses of four victims who are not satisfied,, that would be point one three percent of all victims families. You would think there would be more nutbars.
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Well for each of the almost 3000 that died, there wasn't just one family member left behind. Between parents, children, siblings, etc. there are tens of thousands who lost a family member they loved that day. That takes the percentage down even further.
 
There's also a percentage of the population that thinks the world is flat. And a percentage of the population that still believes Hitler was right. Does the fact that such people exist prove they are right?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
no there are more than those 4 that demand reinvestigations among them also someone that claims the US gov murdered his son on 9/11.
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this makes me think of an interesting question

how many family members do NOT feel the need for a new investigation?

this is a much more diofficult question to answer with certainty, as when one is satisfied with the status quo they generally dont speak out, logically we can assume that anyone not actively demanding a new investion does not feel one is needed

truthers however do the opposite, and assume anyone not actively supporting the "official story" must not accept it, however i just cant see the logic in the this position
 
Dictator Cheney said:
no there are more than those 4 that demand reinvestigations among them also someone that claims the US gov murdered his son on 9/11.
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But that says nothing about their actual claims.

defaultdotxbe said:
logically we can assume that anyone not actively demanding a new investion does not feel one is needed
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Not necessarily. We don't know what these people think or want. Unless they speak out, we have no real way of knowing.

ETA: I generally stay away from debating this stuff, because I give people who lost loved ones a pass. Especially someone like Dictator Cheney, mentioned earlier. A man who lost his son. I give these types of people passes to say anything they want.
 
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gc051360 said:
Not necessarily. We don't know what these people think or want. Unless they speak out, we have no real way of knowing.
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correct, we cant be certain, but in most situation there are logical assumptions that can be made, i feel this is one those
 
defaultdotxbe said:
this makes me think of an interesting question

how many family members do NOT feel the need for a new investigation?

this is a much more diofficult question to answer with certainty, as when one is satisfied with the status quo they generally dont speak out, logically we can assume that anyone not actively demanding a new investion does not feel one is needed

truthers however do the opposite, and assume anyone not actively supporting the "official story" must not accept it, however i just cant see the logic in the this position
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how many have come public and sayd the belive the official sotry?
is there a counter movement or something?
 
Dictator Cheney said:
how many have come public and sayd the belive the official sotry?
is there a counter movement or something?
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thats exactly my point, if you are satisfied with the way things are theres no action to be taken, no "counter movement" to take part in, heck most people i know arent even aware of the existance of your movement, let alone signing up to join a counter movement
 
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