It's all the israelis fault...

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Well, Egyptian Foreign Minister Maher--a Muslim, of course, and not exactly the greatest zionist in the world--is visiting israel and went to pray on the temple mount.

The result? He was attacked by palestinians there as a "traitor" for "talking to the jews", was beaten, and is now hospitalized in an israeli hospital for treatment.

(See: www.jpost.com "latest news", www.debka.org )

But I'm sure this is all israel's fault, somehow. If it will just give in and give these people everything, peace will suddenly arrive, right?
 
According to one of those links (the one that doesn't require that I register to read), they threw shoes at him and called him a traitor, at which point he collapsed. He was taken to hospital on account of that, not because he was "beaten".

Does the other article say he was beaten up?
 
CROWD ATTACKS MINISTER

Egypt's Foreign Minister has collapsed after being surrounded by an angry Palestinian mob in Jerusalem.

Ahmed Maher was visiting the al Aqsa mosque when he was jostled by protesters.


TV footage showed the minister's bodyguards attempting to usher him out of the mosque's grounds through a large throng of journalists, police and Palestinian protesters.

He loses consciousness several minutes later and is reported to have shouted "I'm choking, I'm choking".

"The Israeli foreign ministry is looking into the incident in which the Egyptian minister was assaulted by a huge crowd of Muslim worshippers on the mosque's esplanade this afternoon," a foreign ministry spokesman said.
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http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/0,,30000-1116628,00.html
 
I think we all know what happend. The Israelis poisoned him causing the collapse. Then they could then blame his death on the Pali protestors!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Skeptic said:
Well, Egyptian Foreign Minister Maher--a Muslim, of course, and not exactly the greatest zionist in the world--is visiting israel and went to pray on the temple mount.

The result? He was attacked by palestinians there as a "traitor" for "talking to the jews", was beaten, and is now hospitalized in an israeli hospital for treatment.

(See: www.jpost.com "latest news", www.debka.org )

But I'm sure this is all israel's fault, somehow. If it will just give in and give these people everything, peace will suddenly arrive, right?
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Well sir, if that is the case, then I suggest that you jet to Israel and explain to the Palestinians that they will just have to deal with their current situation for many, many years into the future since you have decided that you like the Israelis so much more than the Palestinians.

I am sure that the response you get will be even more demonstrative than the one that was recieved by the Egyptian Foreign Minister you are so concerned about.
 
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Crossbow said:
Well sir, if that is the case, then I suggest that you jet to Israel and explain to the Palestinians that they will just have to deal with their current situation for many, many years into the future since you have decided that you like the Israelis so much more than the Palestinians.

I am sure that the response you get will be even more demonstrative than the one that was recieved by the Egyptian Foreign Minister you are so concerned about.
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The problem Crossbow is that the Palestinians ask those question to the wrong direction.

First of all, they have to ask Yasser Arafat why he keep them in those refugee camps although he has received millions in financial aid to dismantle the camps.

They have to ask Arafat why he left Camp David.

They have to ask Arafat why Amnesty International started investigating the actions of the Palestenian Authority.

The truth is that we can't expect reasonable reaction from the population. Palestinians are angry and Israelis are very scared. The combination of anger and fear doesn't leave much room to optimism. I won't stop to repeat that the matter can be resolved within 10 days.

The problem is that those who suppose to be able to help cannot get over their prejudices.
 
BBC says this will embarrass the Israelis

The BBC's Jill McGivering, in Jerusalem, says the incident is sure to cause some embarrassment for the Israelis.
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Boy, is egg ever on Israeli faces today.
 
Yes, indeed, the BBC insightfully commented the attack of a palestinian mob on an Egyptian minister will "cause embarrasment to the israelis". I can see it now:

BBC: "Shame on you! Why did you let the palestinian mob attack him?"

israelies (shrugging): "Well, when we try to stop those sort of things, you call us baby-killers and the 'supressors of palestinian rights'. So why should we? Let them 'express their rights' and lynch him--they do that all the time anyway."

BBC: (explaining in a paternalistic tone): "You don't understand. We only say that when you try to stop the palestinians from hurting JEWS.
It's your responsibility to make sure ONLY jews are hurt, not human beings, or we'll write a nasty editorial about how 'israeli hard-line position threathens to export the conflict to Europe'!

Please remember: when they kill YOU, they're "militants" or "opposition forces". When they kill US, they're "terrorists". Have you no consideration for us?"
 
Mayeb they should fense off the temple mount into different sections. That way this sort of thing wouldnt happen.
 
Skeptic said:
Yes, indeed, the BBC insightfully commented the attack of a palestinian mob on an Egyptian minister will "cause embarrasment to the israelis". I can see it now:

BBC: "Shame on you! Why did you let the palestinian mob attack him?"

israelies (shrugging): "Well, when we try to stop those sort of things, you call us baby-killers and the 'supressors of palestinian rights'. So why should we? Let them 'express their rights' and lynch him--they do that all the time anyway."

BBC: (explaining in a paternalistic tone): "You don't understand. We only say that when you try to stop the palestinians from hurting JEWS.
It's your responsibility to make sure ONLY jews are hurt, not human beings, or we'll write a nasty editorial about how 'israeli hard-line position threathens to export the conflict to Europe'!

Please remember: when they kill YOU, they're "militants" or "opposition forces". When they kill US, they're "terrorists". Have you no consideration for us?"
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Do you have fun writing these little plays? Maybe you could perform them at the mall... Speaking of Malls, I'm just off down to my local mall to explain to the owners that god has given me the mall. The current occupants will have to nick off, I'm sure they won't mind.
 
Skeptic said:

The result? He was attacked by palestinians there as a "traitor" for "talking to the jews", was beaten, and is now hospitalized in an israeli hospital for treatment.
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Didnt you know that Islam is a relgion of peace and the palestinians are just an oppressed group of people? You need to go to re-education camp.
 
Well, so far the response of Tmy, the Fool, and others to this event has been to:

1). shift the discussion to the "awful opression of the palestinians".

2). claim that the security fence should be moved closer to israel's border because the palestinians were acting like thugs. (Wow, what a great incentive to stop violence).

3). imply that the "real source" of the whole problem is evil zionism "land stealing".

Not a word, though, about the fact that maybe--juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust maybe--this violence and barabrity from the palestinians might have SOMETHING to do with the dismal situation, or with why they don't have a state yet.

See what I mean about "it's all israel's fault"?
 
Skeptic said:
Well, so far the response of Tmy, the Fool, and others to this event has been to:

1). shift the discussion to the "awful opression of the palestinians".

2). claim that the security fence should be moved closer to israel's border because the palestinians were acting like thugs. (Wow, what a great incentive to stop violence).

3). imply that the "real source" of the whole problem is evil zionism "land stealing".

Not a word, though, about the fact that maybe--juuuuuuuuuuuuuuust maybe--this violence and barabrity from the palestinians might have SOMETHING to do with the dismal situation, or with why they don't have a state yet.

See what I mean about "it's all israel's fault"?
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And you blame palestinians for everything.... Personally I see a lot of fault on both sides, resonding to your ignorant bigotry tends to see me posting more stuff pointing out how the Palestinians are being shafted....

No problems "skeptic" god is on your side, you can't be wrong.
 
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aerocontrols said:


BBC says this will embarrass the Israelis

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The BBC's Jill McGivering, in Jerusalem, says the incident is sure to cause some embarrassment for the Israelis.
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Boy, is egg ever on Israeli faces today.
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I expect better from you Matt. This would have to win the prize for "Best Piece of Selective Quoting for 2003".

The actual quote reads

But the BBC's Jill McGivering, in Jerusalem, says the incident is likely to prove embarrassing for the Israeli and Palestinian authorities, as well as Egypt.
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Tony said:



Didnt you know that Islam is a relgion of peace and the palestinians are just an oppressed group of people? You need to go to re-education camp.
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Have you ever read the Old Testament, the moral source of the Zionist extremists? It is full of bloodshed and murder, much of it by the Israelites.
 
Skeptic said:
Yes, indeed, the BBC insightfully commented the attack of a palestinian mob on an Egyptian minister will "cause embarrasment to the israelis". I can see it now:

BBC: "Shame on you! Why did you let the palestinian mob attack him?"

israelies (shrugging): "Well, when we try to stop those sort of things, you call us baby-killers and the 'supressors of palestinian rights'. So why should we? Let them 'express their rights' and lynch him--they do that all the time anyway."

BBC: (explaining in a paternalistic tone): "You don't understand. We only say that when you try to stop the palestinians from hurting JEWS.
It's your responsibility to make sure ONLY jews are hurt, not human beings, or we'll write a nasty editorial about how 'israeli hard-line position threathens to export the conflict to Europe'!

Please remember: when they kill YOU, they're "militants" or "opposition forces". When they kill US, they're "terrorists". Have you no consideration for us?"
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Skeptic takes off on another flight of fantasy. Let us know when you land back on planet earth.
 
a_unique_person said:


Skeptic takes off on another flight of fantasy. Let us know when you land back on planet earth.
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It'll never happen. In Skeptic's paranoid world of black-and-white "those people" (aka any and all Palestinians) are bloodthirsty baby-killers, to a man. A good Arab is a dead Arab. No need to get into details concerning splinter groups such as a small extremist Islamic group called the Liberation Party. These are irrelevant distractions from the Eternal Truth that "those people" are scum and that the rightuous heroes in Israel are beyond reproach.

I'm sure he would love to live in a world where being braindead wouldn't be a handicap.
 
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