Islamic Extremists Do Exist

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this is something that cannot be denied and is one of the most important points of the truth about 9-11. whether we like it or not, islamic extremism is real.

they have carried out hundreds of terrorist attacks in israel, india, russia, china, indonesia, phillipines, france, spain, britain, germany, algeria, morocco, saudi arabia, iraq, jordan, egypt, etc etc.

do the CTists suggest every single one of these nations suffered "false-flag" attacks from a illuminati/freemason/zionist conspiracy? that is just rediculous.

and the fact is that the west and the usa has indeed been sticking its nose in the islamic and arab world. is it that hard to believe that someday, somehow, they would strike back?

there have been many, many hijackings over the years. it has become an art. there is nothing unusual about the idea of terrorists taking over an airplane. infact i believe it was american policy to take them to wherever they want to go and not fight back.

but still, it all boils down to the reality of islamic extremists, the attacks they have carried out over the past 30 years, and their clear abilities to stage sophisticated and well planned operations.

.....just so you know...i think bush and the neo-cons have abused the memory of 9-11 to push a very unamerican agenda...but that DOES NOT mean they carried out 9-11. taking advantage of a tragedy..may be dispicable...but it is not evidence of culpability.
 
Welcome on board, Parky. :)

I guess everyone in here knows that islamic terror
is no CIA-Fairytale but let´s see what the CT´ists
in here say about it...
 
i dont see how any rational person can deny it is a real phenomenon. and to suggest that all the terror attacks attributed to them, even when they proudly take credit for the attacks.....were actually false flag cia operations ...really is just seeing the world through colored lenses. and that lense says "nothing is ever what it seems".

must suck to look at the world thay way huh?
 
i dont see how any rational person can deny it is a real phenomenon. and to suggest that all the terror attacks attributed to them, even when they proudly take credit for the attacks.....were actually false flag cia operations ...really is just seeing the world through colored lenses. and that lense says "nothing is ever what it seems".

must suck to look at the world thay way huh?

Well, most MIHOP´er say that Osama is a puppet
of the CIA (See Osman CT). Therefore they think
the whole Al Qaida Gang is a group of CIA-guys. :boggled: :rolleyes:
 
well..we were once on the same side as osama. the enemy of our enemy..was our friend. the soviet union was our great enemy...and the radical muslems were their enemy. so we joined forces.

just because we were his buddy in 1985..doesnt mean we were his buddy in 2001. we have made some very strange alliances over the years, osama is just one of them.

p.s...ive seen a photo of osama being an orthodox jew....funny huh?
 
I did not find any valid connection from the CIA to
Osama beside the fact that they both sponsored the
Mujahedeen.

Even if i know that Conspiracy-Theory-Sites tell the
wildest stories about it...

Do you remember where i can find that Osama-pic
you mentioned?
 
Mr Taylor:...............The 9/11 attacks were the result of al Qaeda planning. Al Qaeda was the command and control centre. It no longer works like that, so these cells are their protean: they change; they are autonomous, or semi-autonomous. What binds them together is a common association with the philosophy of bin Laden and al Qaeda. This makes them all the more difficult to identify and penetrate for the various intelligence agencies. I think an indication of that is the attacks on Madrid. The Madrid cell got under the wire, although there were indirect al Qaeda connections with Madrid via Abu Dada, who has just got 27 years in Spain. The attacks in Casablanca got under the wire, the recent attack in Bali the other weekend got under the wire, critically the London bombers, the 7/7 bombers from Leeds got under the wire. There was absolutely zero intelligence on the Leeds cell, nothing at all, and that is a problem. If the intelligence services, the security services, are dealing with al Qaeda as such—a bit like dealing with the IRA that I studied for over 30 odd years—there is a structure, there is a precise goal and, once you know what the structure is, you can begin to penetrate and take out the various cells, al Qaeda and its associated groupings, and there is a danger of putting the al Qaeda stamp on everything that happens—sometimes it is justified, sometimes it is not—nevertheless, the threat that these new kind of cells that subscribe to the same philosophy as al Qaeda and bin Laden are extremely dangerous and I think the evidence speaks for itself.
http://tinyurl.com/ymozgn

Peter Taylor is a respected journalist giving evidence to a commons selct committee. It's long, but an interesting read.

Also......

A leading suspect in the 2004 Madrid train bombings has been temporarily extradited from Italy to Spain.

Rabei Osman Sayed Ahmed, a 35-year-old Egyptian, is described by Spanish investigators as one of the organisers of the attack, which killed 191 people.

He is one of 29 suspects due to stand trial in February in Spain for their alleged role in the bombings.

Ahmed was jailed for 10 years in Italy earlier this month ago for having links to terror cells in Europe and Iraq.

He is alleged to have spent 18 months in Spain before the Madrid bombings, sharing his knowledge of explosives with other key suspects.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6160240.stm
 
Terrorists up the wazoo

Truthers and members of the "Patriot" movement always deny the existence of Islamic terrorists and deny the mountainous evidence for real terrorism--except when they're talking about closing the borders.

Then, all of a sudden, there are terrorists up the wazoo!

So there are no terrorists--except when the Patriots want to scare you into closing the border. Then the terrorists pop into existence, waiting to cross the border with the other Evil Foreigners.

The Patriots don't notice this self-contradiction because the Patriots are idiots.
 
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What I can gather from the deniers is this:
Yes, there are actual terrorists.
But when you ask them about any specific act of terrorism, it's always a "False Flag."

So, the logical conclusion is that there are terrorists, but they never do any actual terrorizing. They're just scary-looking, I guess?
 
Official CTers heraldry: a ring roseate with brown flecks upon a field urollagnic.
 
Now if I was a conspiracy theorist I might believe that al Qaeda is financing the whole CT "movement" as a false-flag operation to take the heat off the terrorists.

Maybe al Qaeda wire transfered a large amount of money, say about $100,000, to their top CT patsy to keep the Internet disinformation flowing. I think I read that in an Indian newspaper, yeah an Indian newspaper.
 
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Reggie perrin

I believe there are Islamic terrorists who want to harm us, but i do not believe for one moment they had the capability or sophistication to pull off 9/11 one way or another there had to either be a state sponsor or inside help/complicity for this to be successful there just has to have been.Some people think it was as easy as just hoping on a plane and simply steering it into a building, and they're completly wrong, this was an intricate ultra sophisticated attack.

http://z10.invisionfree.com/Loose_Change_Forum/index.php?showtopic=885

I wonder why..... are arabs less capable than those of us in the west?
 
So, the logical conclusion is that there are terrorists, but they never do any actual terrorizing. They're just scary-looking, I guess?


Not that scary! We can beat them to death without our luggage, remember.

-Gumboot
 

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