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Is the Diary of Anne Frank Genuine?

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The answer is no according to the author of this essay Professor Robert Faurisson, a specialist in the appraisal and evaluation of texts and documents. As an aside, Anne Frank was sent to Auschwitz and stayed there for a few months. But I have heard many times from the cult of holocaustianity that women and children were killed shortly after arrival as they were unfit for work. Anne Frank was moved to Belsen were she was also not killed but died from typhus.
IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
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Do you have any other sources which question the authenticity of the document, aside from this organization which has an admitted bias?

Please define "holocaustianity." I am not familiar with that term.
 
LibraryLady said:
Please define "holocaustianity." I am not familiar with that term.
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It is a phrase anti-semites created to dishonestly describe accurate history of the Holocaust as some sort of religion:"Holocaust" + "Christianity"= holocaustianity
 
Mondial said:
The answer is no according to the author of this essay Professor Robert Faurisson, a specialist in the appraisal and evaluation of texts and documents.
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Nyet longstanding holocaust denier.

As an aside, Anne Frank was sent to Auschwitz and stayed there for a few months. But I have heard many times from the cult of holocaustianity that women and children were killed shortly after arrival as they were unfit for work.
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Nyet only women with children under 15. There was a work camp for women without children.

Anne Frank was moved to Belsen were she was also not killed but died from typhus.
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And who's fault was it that the conditions to facilitate the spread of typhus were to be found there?
 
geni said:
And who's fault was it that the conditions to facilitate the spread of typhus were to be found there?
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Oddly enough, they never seem to think through the implications of that particular claim of theirs.
 
Go to the house. There laid out for all to see are the written texts. In her handwriting, often on whatever paper she could find. bits and pieces so touching and so real... no you can't fake something like that.

Thomas Hoving one of the BEST fake art busters in the business and his associates, the best manuscript people in the WORLD, have not an ounce of doubt about the 100 % authenticity of the diary.

But go yourself. Look and see.

There, on the table, under the glass... it's there and it's real.

It will break your heart.

If it was faked, then it would never be as tame as it is. Because all it is, is a look into the heart of a young girl. You get to know her, you get to love her, and you know she was murdered. It's a simply diary. Not full of hate, indeed just full of life.

To read her diary is to gain a friend and then suffer the pain of losing her.

To go to her hiding place and see her room and diary, will scar you forever and make you wonder what sort of beasts we humans are that allowed the murder of this young girl. I took my daughters. It ripped us inside to go, because it was like going to the funeral of a beloved friend. I remember looking out a window and thinking "this was a view Anne saw" Only it seemed to be raining, because the tears were pouring out of my eyes so heavily. My children were also in tears.

It's not Jew or non Jew. It's what we do to real people that's the horror here.

Her diary put a face on mass murder.

People wonder why I took my children. I took my children because I'm not dumb enough to think that it can never happen again.

It has happened in the past, it will happen in the future, its happening now.
 
Mondial said:
The answer is no according to the author of this essay Professor Robert Faurisson, a specialist in the appraisal and evaluation of texts and documents.
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Actually, no. He's a specialist in lying and Holocaust denial. The fact that the page you cited was hosted by the IHR should have clued you in.

And, yes, Anne Frank's diary has been studied many times and is genuine. There are a few post-war emendations that cannot be traced, but the vast bulk of the writing is Anne's and was made during the period described by the diary.

As an aside, Anne Frank was sent to Auschwitz and stayed there for a few months. But I have heard many times from the cult of holocaustianity that women and children were killed shortly after arrival as they were unfit for work.
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No, not all women and children were killed shortly after arrival. The photographs of prisoners that include women should clue you in on that.
 
Mondial said:
The answer is no according to the author of this essay Professor Robert Faurisson, a specialist in the appraisal and evaluation of texts and documents. As an aside, Anne Frank was sent to Auschwitz and stayed there for a few months. But I have heard many times from the cult of holocaustianity that women and children were killed shortly after arrival as they were unfit for work. Anne Frank was moved to Belsen were she was also not killed but died from typhus.
IS THE DIARY OF ANNE FRANK GENUINE?
www.ihr.org/jhr/v03/v03p147_Faurisson.html
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A)Otherwise the answer is yes. Faurisson is identified as a Holocaust denier in Russian, Italian, English and French just on the first page of sites I went to.
B) I first read about the Holocaust and related in the mid 50's and it was quite clear even then that A) some people died on the way to camps, B)many died by gassing, shooting and experimantation in the various camps and C)many were used as slave labor either for camp functions or other functions for the Nazi's. IIRC, it was only during the final weeks of the Nazi rule of Germany that as many as could be killed were - to keep them from being freed and telling their stories to the Allies and/or Russians. The writers had no need that I can identify to lie about these things and - within the limits you and the slime you seem to feel are valid researchers note - they make more sense and match other data much better.
 
Beady said:
Question: Does Mondial actually participate in these threads that he starts?
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I'm often wondering about this type of propagandists. I mean I can understand people wo go in and defend their silly or nasty ideas, even using silly and nasty arguments, but this:

Make a claim and leave it to be shredded to bits by the opposition. Who do they think they're convincing?

Hans
 
Beady said:
Probably no one, but they are getting people to view "their" sites.
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This is true, but MRC_Hans has a point. This thread will be indexed and contain multiple excellent arguments against the initial claim. So, I think then net outcome works against the OP's intent.
 
It is interesting that the first public mention of the diary occurs well before the Nuremburg trials where completed. So to be a fraud, it needed to be completed in a matter of months, already knowing what was to come out in the trials, and have the internal consistency with the evidence to be a believable.

In terms of the quality of the writing, I am sure I heard Anne wanted to be an author, and actually did some editing of the diary to make it more readable after the war
 
Beady said:
Question: Does Mondial actually participate in these threads that he starts?
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One and done is his MO.

At least some of the other anti-semitic morons will come back and attempt, however feebly, to defend their nonsense. Not Mondial. He's more cowardly than some of the others.
 
There was editing done on the diary after it was re-discovered by her father after the war. He wanted a lot of the disparaging remarks about her mother taken out; remember this is a 14 year old girl. Then Meyer Levin did some editing to make it more "readable." Anne did no editing--she didn't have time.

It has been restored and is available in a definitive edition with two edited editions.
 
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