Is it so much fun to be a prostitute ?

[El Greco]

A Greek network has lately focused on expensive call girls who advertise themselves with web sites etc. One of them who was arrested a few weeks ago used to charge 30,000 euros for a weekend.

Anyway, in between all this a new story came up today: A father went to visit his daughter who was a student in another city, and thought he could also have some fun. So he calls a girl from a newspaper ad and arranges an appointment in a hotel room. But -as you have probably already figured out- when he opens the door he meets his daughter. The story leaked because the father fainted and they had to call an ambulance.

Now the fun part is that the girl comes from a wealthy family and in fact used to receive a generous amount of money from her family each month. When asked by the reporter she said that she didn't really need the money but it was nice to be able to make it, plus she had the opportunity to "expand her circle of acquaintances".

Well, if I was a girl I already know what I would do for a living

 

[aerocontrols]

Do you have a source? Look like an urban legend...

 

[El Greco]

Do you have a source? Look like an urban legend...

This is really hot news, it was aired half an hour ago. And that channel doesn't make up stories, AFAIK.

But it doesn't change much, anyway. There are expensive call girls and they certainly don't exactly need the money. So it has to be somewhat fun, doesn't it ?

 

[Seismosaurus]

There's literally nothing you can name that somebody somewhere doesn't enjoy doing, no matter how horrible it may seem to most. Humans are a very diverse people, after all.

So yes, I'd say there probably are women who enjoy prostitution. And why not? It's not like they're hurting anybody.

 

[c0rbin]

Not that I know, but one could, with little empiricism, get me to agree that high-priced call girls have more fun than junky crack-whores.

 

[hgc]

It's not like this father can really complain (not that I know he is). Afterall, the prostitute he intended to get is someone else's daughter.

 

[jay gw]

If you charge alot, you only get the top class types, poor people can't afford you. So you're weeding out the problem people.

The lower class street walker types are the ones that really suffer. Almost ALL of them have very serious drug problems, and alot have mental illness and can't work in other jobs.

One of the stupidest things is making prostitution illegal. If prostitution is illegal, it means that when they are robbed or beaten etc. they can't go to the police and complain. In places where it's legal the police will help. And, diseases don't spread where it's legal, because they can force you to wear condoms. Illegal prostitutes can't force anyone to do anything. And, it's not dangerous to society. Every time the police arrest someone, it just costs money. For what? They haven't actually harmed anything. Dumb.

 

[pgwenthold]

This is similar to the current story about the junior high speaker who is in trouble for telling 8th graders that strippers can make a lot of money (depending on their bust size). Of course, a lot of parents are howling about it, but his defense is, "It's true."

Of course, it is true, but apparently it's not appropriate to tell 8th graders that it is a viable career option. You can tell them that it is ok to scrub toilets for minimum wage if they want to, but suggesting that exotic dancing might be a way to make a lot of money? No way.

I don't have the full link, but I read it on www.usatoday.com

 

[The idea]

One of the stupidest things is making prostitution illegal.

Are you using the word "stupidest" to avoid using some concept such as "unjust", "unethical", or "immoral"?

What about those who, aware of the costs and consequences of laws against prostitution, still approve of such laws? You wouldn't be able to accuse them of ignorance. Perhaps you could say they are stupid on the grounds that they fail to recognize that the costs are too high or that the consequences are too negative. However, that would suggest that, if there were significantly lower costs or less severe consequences, then people could approve of laws against prostitution without deserving the label "stupid." In this scenario, they are comparing the costs and consequences to something.

Maybe there are those who know all about the actual costs and consequences and think they are worth it. Maybe they aren't stupidly failing to make an accurate comparison. Maybe they are measuring things against a standard that differs from your standard.

 

[SRW]

Just finished reading Callgirl
it is written by Jeannette Angell, a college professor who is a callgirl on the side. Not a great read but very intresting look in to the life of a prostute.

The book makes it sound like it can be great fun at time and pretty crappy at others. I have heard it's lots of fun to be with a prostitute, but would not know....

 

[Beerina]

Well, if I was a girl I already know what I would do for a living

That's like saying "If'n I were a doctor, I'd be a gy-nee-cologist!" In reality, for every sweet young thing you see, you see a dozen old and/or diseased "things".

Ok, prostitute. Here comes Heffery, a 350-lb. unbathed 68 year old man with 3 teeth and the IQ of a turnip. That's not a vest! That's the half inch of smegma under his arms rubbing off.


Nah, if you're gonna have a fantasy, make it very specific, like "I wish I were a gorgeous 5'11" lesbian with creamy white porcelain skin and waist-length jet black hair, big red natural lips the size of bicycle inner tubes, full heavy D breasts with 5" dark brown areolae, etc. etc. etc. who makes a living doing lesbian pr0n and lesbian tongue-sucking videos with her 6" tongue. She doesn't fear disease because of a natural resistance to it that is so powerful it actually cleans anyone she sexes with. She is so sexy she can induce lust in anyone of her choosing. Also, she has 10 billion dollars."

 

[dann]

Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

There are some pro and contra questions where you shouldn't take sides. One of them is whether or not prostitution ought to be legal.

For what exactly is prostitution?
On the one hand it's all about sex. And sex is something that most of us enjoy. On the other hand it's all about getting paid - and who doesn't like to receive money? Getting laid and getting paid! Sounds like a match made in heaven, doesn't it?
So where's the rub? Well, sex is usually something that takes place with somebody you find ... well, sexy! Two people find each other attactive and go to bed together. No problem.

But the idea of having sex with a partner that you don't find attactive is rather repulsive (come up with your own examples!). This is the reason why some people can have this as their 'career': the aversion to having sex with a partner you don't find attractive is overcome by means of the payment for this kind of service.
This is the awful truth about prostitution, and it conflicts with the romantic fantasies sometimes associated with this line of business (e.g. Pretty Woman, one of the most disgusting movies I can think of).

Sometimes you hear objections to prostitution along the lines that men and their lechery is the problem. Prostitution could not exist without it.
However, there are women who choose prostitution as an alternative to low-paying jobs, something which feminists tend to ignore, which is a pity, since this is the point that the criticism ought to concentrate on.
There are several services which people perform - and not exactly from inclination. This phenomenon is most often referred to as a job - and it is something that all opinion-formers are very much in favour of, in spite of the fact that it is based on systematic blackmail: People of slender means make a choice between alterntives that is forced upon them. It does not require any more blackmailing than this: the lack of other means to make a living. This is what it takes to force upon people the choice between the job as a checkout girl at K-Mart or becoming a streetwalker. Poverty is all the 'motivation' it takes. No poverty, no prostitution. No matter how horny the men are, the horny man doesn't lead to prostitution without the woman to whom it seems lucrative to oblige him - for money - wether she finds him attractive or even likable or not.
Without her reason for becoming a prostitute, her poverty, the man can be horny as hell - it remains his problem.

And SRW!
How many college professors do you think are callgirls on the side? More than one?

 

[dann]

Re: Re: Is it so much fun to be a prostitute ?

Nah, if you're gonna have a fantasy, make it very specific, like ...

A very good point, Beerina!

 

[The idea]

Re: Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

Sometimes you hear objections to prostitution along the lines that men and their lechery is the problem.

Alternatively, one could say the probem is men who don't love money enough.

 

[SRW]

Re: Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

And SRW!
How many college professors do you think are callgirls on the side? More than one?

I only know of one, Jeannette Angell. I do however work in a college so my guess would be that not very many would make much money at it.

 

[The idea]

For the insufficient love of money is the root of all use of a prostitute's services. Some have been led astray from the habit of chastity by their lack of greed and have pierced themselves through with many sorrows.

1Timothy 6:10

 

[Kerberos]

Re: Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

Pretty Woman, one of the most disgusting movies I can think of.

Aren't you taking it just a tad to seriously? I rather like it myself. Sure you could say it glorifies a rather unglorious occupation, but it's an entertaiment movie, not a documentary. Countless movies glorify violence (many of which I've enjoyed too), surely that's more disgusting, if, that is, you take that kind of movies seriously.

 

[dann]

Re: Re: Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

Aren't you taking it just a tad to seriously? I rather like it myself.

I didn't think it was a documentary when I saw it, but still ...
It is disgusting.
I think Beerina got it right when she said, "if you're gonna have a fantasy ...
By the way, the discussion about prostitutes in Danish here:
http://www.drv.dk/bbs.aspx?fid=20562

 

[pgwenthold]

Re: Fun to be a prostitute? Hardly ...

But the idea of having sex with a partner that you don't find attactive is rather repulsive (come up with your own examples!). This is the reason why some people can have this as their 'career': the aversion to having sex with a partner you don't find attractive is overcome by means of the payment for this kind of service.

In the same way, some people can overlook the fact that sometimes people miss the toilet and $hit and pee all over the floor, and they go clean it up. They are the janitors. If you can't handle that, don't be a janitor.

There are lousy aspects to every occupation that have to be overcome in order to do it. Ask a doctor with some of the things they have to endure with patients? Do you worry about the "romantic fantasy" of being a doctor because doctors have to suffer a perpetual cold from October to April? I guarantee you, folks who dream of being a doctor aren't thinking about the glory of getting a call from a patient at 2:30 because they can't sleep (my sis-in-law did; she told the patient to drink a glass of warm milk).

Just because there are things about a job that might be unattractive to you, or even to most people around, is no excuse for outlawing it.

A common objection is, would you want your daughter to be a prostitute? I might say no, but then, I wouldn't want my daughter to scrub toilets for a living, either. It has no bearing on whether it should be illegal or not.

 

[dann]

"Only in Hollywood could they turn Cinderella into a sugar-coated whore."

This line is a user comment at www.imdb.com

The problem with the movie is that it glorifies ... not love, not relationships, not even prostitution, but ... the illusions of a prostitute!
Being a skeptic, what would you say are the chances of a streetwalker not only looking like Julia Roberts but also running into a billionaire who not only looks like Richard Gere but is also willing to marry her?
Well, what are the chances of life on other planets? Let's count the number of known galaxies in the universe, the number of stars in the galaxies, the number of planets ...
The chances of a streetwalker being abducted by aliens are much, much better!
Pretty Woman is the screen version of a prostitute's wet dream, the same way religion is the opium of the people.