Iron Oxide

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Obviously there's gotta be something for the Truthers to prove. They claim iron oxide was found as evidence of "explosives/thermite". But what they don't know is that paint products do contain trace amounts of iron oxide in them.

Did David Ray Griffin or Richard Gage test this substance with other compounds? We know they can't get nano-thermite to test with, so what are they trying to prove?

Since they obviously found red/grey chips, doesn't that qualify as being just regular paint? Since alot of steel products have grey primer with rust resistant red paint on them to prevent rust from forming. Then again after about 30 years of being in the weather, wouldn't some parts be rusting anyways do to the fact that the Towers were near salt water?

Look at all those ships in the harbors, they rust like hell. From a Truther perspective that's evidence of "thermite". But we know it's not, so what's the big deal? Is it because they have a theory & they're trying to prove something which only occurs in nature?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iron_oxide

http://www.kimix.com.cn/company.asp

http://www.redironoxide.com/

http://chemicalland21.com/industrialchem/inorganic/IRON OXIDE.htm

http://minerals.usgs.gov/minerals/pubs/commodity/iron_oxide/750401.pdf

Can the Truthers explain something which only occurs in nature?
 
Red paint pigment!!!
OMG they found red paint pigment in the wreckage of a complex of steel buildings!!

Call the FBI, call the NYPD, call the Coast Guard, and then get it on the newswire!
 
Red primer paint !!!
OMG they found red primer paint in the wreckage of a complex of steel buildings!!

Call the FBI, call the NYPD, call the Coast Guard, and then get it on the newswire!
 
magnetic recording coatings !!!
OMG they found magnetic recording coatings in the wreckage of a complex of steel office buildings!!

Call the FBI, call the NYPD, call the Coast Guard, and then get it on the newswire!
 
One of the problems with the buildings was that there was a major labor strike, just as construction was about to start. The mills had begun to fill the orders for the steel but with no where to deliver them, the beams and columns sat in the mill yards for months.

As a result, the beams were coated with a fine layer of rust under the primer slag, scale and rust was responsible for much of the sprayed on fireproofing falling off. Pictures taken in the 1990's show huge sections of fireproofing missing from the core steel in the elevator shafts.
 
jaydeehess said:
Red primer paint !!!
OMG they found red primer paint in the wreckage of a complex of steel buildings!!

Call the FBI, call the NYPD, call the Coast Guard, and then get it on the newswire!
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No. It was superduper silently exploding nanother[ia]te cleverly disguised as primer paint by evil NWO minions, the Mossad and the reptilian overlords. [/truther].
 
Jones compared some of the paint samples he got from Manhattan with chips from a recently painted stadium of campus. There was no great degree of similarity between the two.

Well, big freakin' DUH! From the spectographic evidence he presents, it does not appear to me that all of his paint chips have the same chemical composition. We may be talking about chips from the structural steel and from desks, chairs and filing cabinets.

All opf them reacted somewhat differently to MEK that he used in analyzing them.

The most resistant to MEK contained, inerestingly, zink and chromium.

Derrr...

I have done some work in shipyards in Tacoma, usually either chipping paint or doing fire watch duriong wleding operations. Sometimes, galvanizing or powder coating applied to steel before it is painted comes off with the paint. A few jobs involved totallly stripping paint from some surfaces. We used MEK to dissolve some of it.

The older the paint, generally, the more resistant it was to MEK. Since the steel members were fabricated and painted around thirty years or so ago, we can assume that the paint on them would be among the oldest and most thoroughly-cured of all, thus the most resistant to MEK. And one of the pigments in the paint used on the structural steel was kink chromate, possibly with a kaolin filler. The paint itself used a diatomaceous earth filler, which would not neccessarily be chemically pure, and probably contained at least some kaolin. (The stuff is everywhere, as a decomposition product of feldspar.)

So, we now know to expect to find aluminum, iron oxide, zink, chromium, calcium, some potassium and an awful lot of silicon in the paint chips.

Of the several kinds of thermite I have handled, every one of them contained aluminum and calcium sulphate or iron oxide. I have no idea why any form of thermite would contain silicon. It's inert, for our purposes. It would be a retardent.

From pulling fire watch, I know for a fact that nearly every kind of paint commonly used over steel will burn quite energeticly if hit by a welder's torch.

I am about 99.9% sure we are talking about Jones and silly old Harrit having an intellectual orgasm over paint chips.
 
Time for a pearoast:

Separated-At-Birth.jpg


Sorry, I've forgotten who made the pic. :o
 
orphia nay said:
Time for a pearoast:

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Sorry, I've forgotten who made the pic. :o
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Great pics ON! :)

Here's a pic that I found at LC: AAC forum (I added a few words of my own to the pic):
 

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