Iraqi Infant Slated For Surgery in U.S.

Nie Trink Wasser

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BALAD, Iraq, May 19, 2004 — An 8-month-old Iraqi girl has a new lease on life thanks to U.S. officials on both sides of the Atlantic who cut through mounds of red tape to set up surgery to remove a large birth defect.

Early May 18, Fatemah Hassan and her 21-year-old mother, Baday Amir Abdel-Jabar boarded a military aircraft en route to Germany. After a brief layover, they'll continue on to Children's Hospital in Columbus, Ohio, for the surgery.

http://www.defendamerica.mil/articles/may2004/a051904b.html
 
Why so surprising? Do you REALLY BELIEVE the rest of the world thinks the US is completely a bunch of baby-eating home-burning mindless Terminators?

Somehow I think you really like to feed your prejudices, NTW. You get off on being disliked so much you stoke your own flames. Pervert.
 
Sorry...but what about the rest? Any help given is to be applauded but is helping the point of this exercise or is the main point the creation of a feel good story for coalition home consumption. It makes me mad when I see these cherry picked cases...always a cute child or similar...never a wart infested smelly old toothless hag.

These selective cases are chosen for maximum media attractiveness, paraded around, given medical treatment....we can all then feel good about ourselves and f*ck the rest of those that don't get to audition for sad cute child victim of the year...
 
The Fool said:
These selective cases are chosen for maximum media attractiveness, paraded around, given medical treatment....we can all then feel good about ourselves and f*ck the rest of those that don't get to audition for sad cute child victim of the year... [/B]
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these cases dont get any media attention and thats why I posted it.

now back to the drama...
 
The Central Scrutinizer said:
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I'd like to add "what' as in "so what?'

The all the misery the US has rained down on Iraqis this hardly makes thing "otay".....

Charlie (typical NTW propaganda boosting) Monoxide
 
The all the misery the US has rained down on Iraqis...

Yes, life was SO much more peaceful and happy under Saddam Hussein and his sons.
 
The Fool said:
It makes me mad when I see these cherry picked cases...always a cute child or similar...never a wart infested smelly old toothless hag.
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From the article:Without surgery at Children's Hospital, officials fear the baby girl may die from a cavernous hemangioma, an abnormal growth of a blood vessel on the right side of her face and neck.
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I don't know what a cavernous hemangioma on the side of the face and neck looks like, but I doubt it's pretty.

On second thought, a fast search on google images provides an answer. My suspicions are confirmed, it's not pretty:

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This is just a small one, the one in the article is supposed to extend from her face to her neck.
 
Sorry...but what about the rest? Any help given is to be applauded but...

...not by you, since it might mean saying something good about the USA.

is helping the point of this exercise

Yes.

or is the main point the creation of a feel good story for coalition home consumption.

It's an evil media conspiracy: "if we do good things for the Iraqis, our image will improve." (evil laughter) MUHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!!

Shocking, isn't it, the moral depravity the US will sink to--saving the lives of children just to make itself look good...

It makes me mad when I see these cherry picked cases...

I doubt it. Cherry picked cases about American abuse or mismanagement seem to make your day.

Besides, it ISN'T cherry picked. The US forced routinely help many ordinary Iraqis. But you never hear of that, or care if you do.

always a cute child or similar...never a wart infested smelly old toothless hag.

Somehow I doubt that, for instance, the US medical or food services in Iraq exclude old hags as nonphotogenic.

But, just to give another example, two days ago there was a picture in the paper of seven men who got new artificial arms from the US after Saddam cut theirs off. "Seven middle-age guys with a mustache" doesn't exactly qualify as "cute kid".
 
Nie Trink Wasser said:
these cases dont get any media attention and thats why I posted it.

now back to the drama...
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No, you posted it here to fan the flames of hatred for the USA so as you could feed off them yourself. It was a self-serving effort by you only. You relied on the supposed prejudices of your audience to create an atmosphere of hate for your own self-indignation. Peh!

As mentioned above, not everyone is so naive as to believe that the US forces in Iraq are there only to rape and pillage. We credit them with WAY more intelligence and humanity and decency than that. And most of the guys on the ground there show they are up to that task, more credit to them.

And the US forces are not the only people on the ground there trying to do all sorts of good in that place either. And this is not the first, and certainly won't be the last, "good deed" that will be done for thoroughly deserving Iraqis who have been put upon by really bad circumstances. Everyone who helps with that problem deserves our support and praise.

So grow up for a change, OK?
 
In addition:

1). The article NTW posted didn't even have a picture of the girl. If they were trying to capitalize on the fact that she's a "cute kid", they blew it.

2). Generally speaking, healthcare expenditures in Iraq by the coalition are now 26 times what they were under Saddam. That "occassional cute kid" who is being treated for "propaganda purposes", according to "The Fool", must be getting some pretty expensive treatments.

But there I go again, confusing "The Fool" with facts.
 
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I don't know what a cavernous hemangioma on the side of the face and neck looks like, but I doubt it's pretty.

On second thought, a fast search on google images provides an answer. My suspicions are confirmed, it's not pretty:

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This is just a small one, the one in the article is supposed to extend from her face to her neck.
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I feel sick. The hypocricy displayed by the clowns trumpeting these publicity cases is sad.... Very common and very sad. Why not pick some of the babies that we have blown chunks off? They are not in short supply....but obviously don't make nearly as good a story eh?

After your armies efforts at highly publicised warcrimes you can almost hear the wheels of government creaking as they order some feelgood stories to be manufactured.....Go and find me a sad child! Spend a lot of money on a token Iraqi pronto!!! Here's a suggestion, why not take a random Iraqi off the streets and give them a Cadillac? You could put the presentation on TV...

Honestly Mycroft.... How do you get sucked in by this type of cheap simplistic shell game? I can understand wasser and that Idiot "skeptic" but you seem so bright in other ways.
 
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Honestly Mycroft.... How do you get sucked in by this type of cheap simplistic shell game? I can understand wasser and that Idiot "skeptic" but you seem so bright in other ways.
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I often feel the same about you. You seem like such a bright fellow, but it's as though someone put blinders on you. What kind of idiocy is it that say that someone who does a good deed should be reviled because doing the good deed makes him look good?

You want to pass this off as publicity, yet the story itself gets no play in the mainstream media. There is no fanfare or trumpets announcing this, just a tiny story in an obscure military journal. If this were for publicity, it would be easy enough to arrange a photo-op with some high level person, but that hasn't happened.
 
Mycroft said:


I often feel the same about you. You seem like such a bright fellow, but it's as though someone put blinders on you. What kind of idiocy is it that say that someone who does a good deed should be reviled because doing the good deed makes him look good?

You want to pass this off as publicity, yet the story itself gets no play in the mainstream media. There is no fanfare or trumpets announcing this, just a tiny story in an obscure military journal. If this were for publicity, it would be easy enough to arrange a photo-op with some high level person, but that hasn't happened.
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An Official news website of the US department of Defence is "an obscure military journal" The article itself reports a US Democrat senator announcing the story...maybe the "mainstream" media see's the story for what it is.

As for being reviled for doing a good deed...If the PA decided to fund the medical treatment of a selected Israeli child I suppose you would be saying warm fuzzy things about how kind and caring Arafat is.....what a joke. You would be calling it exactly what it is....
 
What kind of idiocy is it that say that someone who does a good deed should be reviled because doing the good deed makes him look good?

It's not idiocy, it's rationalization.

"The Fool" starts all his "objective investigations" into the "real facts" about anything with the unshakable belief that EVERYTHING the USA does (or fails to do, or does imperfectly) is bad.

So when faced with an undeniable act of charity by the USA, he simply has to claim it's really a "smokescreen" or "proganda" to hide some other, worse, evil, because he simply cannot imagine the possiblity that the USA ever does, or did, anything good.
 
An Official news website of the US department of Defence is "an obscure military journal"

It sure is.

There are literally thousands of official web sites where government agencies announce their latest news; the vast majority of them get very little traffic.

If it isn't obscure, how come you never heard of it until someone else posted it?

How many people do you suppose go to http://www.defendamerica.mil/ to get their latest news?

How many people do you know have EVER even LOOKED at ANY web site with a *.mil ending?

How manty people, do you suppose, even know hat *.mil is a legitimate web site ending at all, like *.com or *.org?

As for being reviled for doing a good deed...If the PA decided to fund the medical treatment of a selected Israeli child I suppose you would be saying warm fuzzy things about how kind and caring Arafat is.....

I sure would--if Arafat would give israel 26 as much health care money as the israeli government does, which is the amount of money the US spend on Iraq healthcare as opposed to what Saddam spent on his own people's healthcare.

Of course, the tiiiiiiiny little difference is that Arafat doesn't do that, unless you count "involuntary amputations by suicide bomber" as medical treatment.
 
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