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Investigation into telephone/online psychics

pyewhackett

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Here's an article about an investigation I did into telephone/online psychics back in 2004/2005.

Using cold reading techniques I was offered a job as a psychic!

http://www.bad-language.com/psychicskeptic

The company is now trying to get me to remove the article, so I want to spread the (bad) news as much as possible.


Karen.
 
Boy you are good! Could you do a reading for me? :D

Saved your webpage to my local disk.

Nicely done.

Any reason to believe their statistics? Maybe they actually accept pretty much everyone who speaks English? I wonder how bad you have to be to get rejected? :boggled:
 
Oh, nice! I read this ages ago and really enjoyed it. Should I reprint it in full on Skepchick or just link to it?
 
Sure. My fees are reasonable. ;)

Very little reason to believe their statistics. More ammo for the investigation really.

I underwent all of their processes and they now claim (years later, after I gave them ample opportunity to respond) that they have further examinations beyond the contract, including reference checks (easy to falsify and about as reliable as testimonials) and criminal background checks (not a prob for many anyway). I hardly deem these to be "examinations".
 
Oh, nice! I read this ages ago and really enjoyed it. Should I reprint it in full on Skepchick or just link to it?

Thank you kindly!

You're welcome to reprint it in full. I have it up on the Bad Psychics sites too - right where it should be...
 
Superb work, thanks for pointing this out too - I had managed to miss it on badpsychics.
 
Cost of a Credit-Card call to Psychic Fiends Hotline: $2.99 per minute.

Cost of a billed call to Psychic Fiends Hotline: $3.99 per minute.

Beating the Psychic Fiends at their own game: Priceless!

-Fnord-

(PS: I notified R.S. Lancaster, the owner of the Stop Sylvia Browne website. He may contact you.)
 
Karen, that was a very informative article. I found it surpising how many hoops you actually needed to jump through before getting the job; not at all surprised no psychic ablitity was needed (although recruiting would be very problematic if that truly was a requirement). I would have thought you only needed a sultry or Jamaican telephone voice and go through a day and a half of in-house training class before being put on the phone.

I'm curious what type of coercion they are trying to use to get you to pull the article down. You seem like the type of person who keeps a record of every stage of the process and can easily prove that you simply wrote the facts.



I've done a few psychic readings myself on the telephone. Not one of my readings ever fell below 100% accuracy. At one time I lived in an apartment complex in Atlanta. My bedroom over looked the pool area that had a pay phone in a corner near a doorway. The complex had racquetball, tennis courts, weight lifting room and recreactional area and being single I knew many of the other tenants pretty well. If I looked out my window and noticed someone I knew walking by the payphone I would call the payphone. No one can walk by a ringing phone -- it's a pavlovian responce to pick it up. I would say my name is William Crystal of the a psychic phone service and I was returning a call at that number. My victim would say no one is here waiting for a call. I would say that is fine becasue I will give you a free three minute "reading." To say this was a "hot" reading would be an understatement. I knew these people's names, occupations, partner's names, roommates if they had any, love life problems. I even knew what they were wearing, holding in their hand and the look on their face at any given moment.

"I see your name starts with a J. Jim? No, you prefer James. You like to play sports don't you. You have some concern about tonight don't you. A date with a woman, her name starts with an A, Anita? Yes, you should be concerned about tonight. She expects you to bring something and you don't intend to bring anything. That would be a mistake to go empty handed. I see something about your car. It's grey and Japanese isn't it? Well it needs a complete cleaning if you want tonight to go well."

I had a lot of fun with that. Only about 25% of the people I talked to pointed at my window and said, "This is you, you SOB Senex!" As I good psychic I would never "fess up" to anything anyway.
 
Karen, that was a very informative article. I found it surpising how many hoops you actually needed to jump through before getting the job; not at all surprised no psychic ablitity was needed (although recruiting would be very problematic if that truly was a requirement). I would have thought you only needed a sultry or Jamaican telephone voice and go through a day and a half of in-house training class before being put on the phone.

I'm curious what type of coercion they are trying to use to get you to pull the article down. You seem like the type of person who keeps a record of every stage of the process and can easily prove that you simply wrote the facts.


I haven't had the opportunity to try a hot reading so far. Great story!

The many hoops tried to give the appearance of legitimacy and thorough 'testing'. In the end, 'Miss Cleo' was debunked through complaints about their fee system, rather than their use of scripts. The illegitimacy of the poster girl, etc. were secondary issues.

Their coercion isn't coercion. That's why I'm fighting back. The unprofessional letter from their "parallegal" is replete with personal comments. For example, the basis of their argument is that (cobbled) they claim my goals, when I wrote the article, are "different" from where I am today, and don't fulfil my "overall objectives". Lots of irrelevant, new age ramblings and claims that their testing procedures are more stringent (in that they check your references and do a criminal check). As I've said, the criminal check isn't a problem for many, and irrelevant to 'psychic' ability, and references are as useful as testimonials. However, they label these processes as "examinations". Their quibbles just aren't relevant or legitimate at all.
 
I haven't had the opportunity to try a hot reading so far. Great story!


Their coercion isn't coercion. That's why I'm fighting back. The unprofessional letter from their "parallegal" is replete with personal comments. For example, the basis of their argument is that (cobbled) they claim my goals, when I wrote the article, are "different" from where I am today, and don't fulfil my "overall objectives".

Wow, when someone's else's legal representation starts telling me what my own "overall objectives" are is one of the few times I would be confident defending myself.

Lots of irrelevant, new age ramblings and claims that their testing procedures are more stringent (in that they check your references and do a criminal check). As I've said, the criminal check isn't a problem for many, and irrelevant to 'psychic' ability, and references are as useful as testimonials. However, they label these processes as "examinations". Their quibbles just aren't relevant or legitimate at all.

If it wasn't for Sylvia Browne being on Larry King regularly giving spiritual advice through a telephone on CNN (a network I sometimes respect) I would not believe that a substantial amount of people believe a stranger can tell something about them or something about a deceased person through a phone line. It boggles my mind that a legal piece of paper can try to state that the new hiring procedures may suggest you wouldn't be hired today or they now know how to pick people who can use phone lines for psychic uses.


If anyone cares, unlike other telephone psychics, all the suggestions I gave were helpful or humorous (sometimes it took a few weeks for the victim to admit the help or humor, but they always did.)
 
Wow, when someone's else's legal representation starts telling me what my own "overall objectives" are is one of the few times I would be confident defending myself.


LOL! Too right!

One should never equivocate the terms "Paralegal" and "legal representation," as paralegals can not legally represent someone in court (please correct me if I'm wrong).
 
Karen, that was a very informative article. I found it surpising how many hoops you actually needed to jump through before getting the job; not at all surprised no psychic ablitity was needed (although recruiting would be very problematic if that truly was a requirement). I would have thought you only needed a sultry or Jamaican telephone voice and go through a day and a half of in-house training class before being put on the phone.

I'm curious what type of coercion they are trying to use to get you to pull the article down. You seem like the type of person who keeps a record of every stage of the process and can easily prove that you simply wrote the facts.



I've done a few psychic readings myself on the telephone. Not one of my readings ever fell below 100% accuracy. At one time I lived in an apartment complex in Atlanta. My bedroom over looked the pool area that had a pay phone in a corner near a doorway. The complex had racquetball, tennis courts, weight lifting room and recreactional area and being single I knew many of the other tenants pretty well. If I looked out my window and noticed someone I knew walking by the payphone I would call the payphone. No one can walk by a ringing phone -- it's a pavlovian responce to pick it up. I would say my name is William Crystal of the a psychic phone service and I was returning a call at that number. My victim would say no one is here waiting for a call. I would say that is fine becasue I will give you a free three minute "reading." To say this was a "hot" reading would be an understatement. I knew these people's names, occupations, partner's names, roommates if they had any, love life problems. I even knew what they were wearing, holding in their hand and the look on their face at any given moment.

"I see your name starts with a J. Jim? No, you prefer James. You like to play sports don't you. You have some concern about tonight don't you. A date with a woman, her name starts with an A, Anita? Yes, you should be concerned about tonight. She expects you to bring something and you don't intend to bring anything. That would be a mistake to go empty handed. I see something about your car. It's grey and Japanese isn't it? Well it needs a complete cleaning if you want tonight to go well."

I had a lot of fun with that. Only about 25% of the people I talked to pointed at my window and said, "This is you, you SOB Senex!" As I good psychic I would never "fess up" to anything anyway.

:shocked:Beauty! :shocked:
 
LOL! Too right!

One should never equivocate the terms "Paralegal" and "legal representation," as paralegals can not legally represent someone in court (please correct me if I'm wrong).

This wasn't even a 'paralegal', it was a "parallegal". I'm not too concerned at this stage, I'm taking it seriously, but I'm highly suspicious of the legitimacy of the letter.
 

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