http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5479410612081345878
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2720106657178468816
in particular, though there are plenty others in the same series.
It's nice that they seem to have at least slightly reduced arrogance vs the usual line, though their logic is still fairly flawed. (E.g. 'if something exists it must have been created', etc.)
But still, rather more moderate than usual for an evangalist view.
(Note: I don't agree with 'em - I'm not Christian by any stretch - but they're still interesting to watch.)
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2720106657178468816
in particular, though there are plenty others in the same series.
It's nice that they seem to have at least slightly reduced arrogance vs the usual line, though their logic is still fairly flawed. (E.g. 'if something exists it must have been created', etc.)
But still, rather more moderate than usual for an evangalist view.
(Note: I don't agree with 'em - I'm not Christian by any stretch - but they're still interesting to watch.)